Phillies Offseason Talk

[ice grillin you]

what they did was hire a known and established baseball name to appease the fan base...but they hired a 68 year old one because they knew that he wouldnt turn down the job or ask any hard questions regarding his role in the position...because at 68 you are just happy to have a job...i fully expect amaro to be co-gm while gillick is there...which will last about 2-3 years where upon gillick will retire and amaro will become the sole gm

[SunMo]

what they did was hire a known and established baseball name to appease the fan base...but they hired a 68 year old one because they knew that he wouldnt turn down the job or ask any hard questions regarding his role in the position...because at 68 you are just happy to have a job...i fully expect amaro to be co-gm while gillick is there...which will last about 2-3 years where upon gillick will retire and amaro will become the sole gm

they probably won't make Amaro an official co-gm, but Gillick already said in his PC that he likes to have multiple opinons when making a decision.  translation = me and amaro are going to make decisions holding hands.

[Rome]

No way Gillick lasts three full years.

No way, no how.  Two years, max.  If the Phillies make the playoffs next year by some miracle, then Amaro steps in and Gillick gets bounced upstairs to fluff Monty's corn cob.

In any case, judging from what I've read and heard from Gillick thus far, there's really not going to be any substantive changes made whatsoever. 

He's reluctant to trade Burrell or Abreu for a #1 (idiotic), Manuel and his pals are staying (moronic), Bell is a gamer (laughable), and his stated goal is to win 5 more games.  Yes, that's right, I said five more games.  Not 10.  Not getting to 100 wins and winning the division going away.  No.  Just win five more games and the season is a success.

Just infuriating.

[MDS]

1. how do you know burrell and abreu can get you a 1?

2. manuel and his staff did a good job. they werent the reason this team didnt make the playoffs.

3. bell rules. dont diss.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

2. manuel and his staff did a good job. they were the reason this team didnt make the playoffs.

Freudian slip?

[MDS]

maybe.....maybe....

[Rome]

1. how do you know burrell and abreu can get you a 1? 

2. manuel and his staff did a good job. they werent the reason this team didnt make the playoffs.

3. bell rules. dont diss.

1.  I don't.  The question was posed hypothetically and he answered that he'd be "reluctant" to do so.

2. Don't make me laugh.

3. Concur.

[MDS]

manuel was fine overall. really. its not his fault urbina blew a bunch of games, that he never got a better 3b or c option, that the bench was awful.

[Dillen]

Abreu won a farging gold glove.

[Rome]

manuel was fine overall. really. its not his fault urbina blew a bunch of games, that he never got a better 3b or c option, that the bench was awful.

Ummm... did you read what you wrote?  Judging from the paragraph above, the Phillies are not in good shape as Gillick suggested.

They have no 3B, no catcher, no everyday CF, they have two 1B's neither of which can play the outfield.  They have no bullpen to speak of, their starting pitching is the very definition of mediocre, their bench players are a joke and their manager and coaching staff are woefully over-matched almost on a nightly basis.

Add to those facts the idea that the remainder of the starting line-up strikes out more often than Pete Incaviglia on a bender, and you've got massive trouble.

Thinks are not alright.  Things are zesty beyond belief and we have this assclown coming in here saying things are honkydory.

Yeah, things are great.   

[PhillyPhreak54]

I like that he said he wants more pitchers.

I don't like the "we only need a little tweaking" schtick.

Oh well. This is what we've got so its time to hope he helps.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He can't be worse that Wade, right?

[MDS]

no one can. well, unless eskin was the gm.

[swflyers2125]

Source says that Ryan Howard will be named Rookie of the year:

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15506102&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6

PHILADELPHIA - The National League Rookie of the Year Award won't be handed out until Monday. However, a league source delivered a strong hint that Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard will be named the winner of the award in honor of his powerful performance over the final three months of the season.

Howard hit .288 with 22 home runs and 63 RBIs in just 312 at-bats and set an all-time rookie record with 10 homers in September. That performance has created one of the biggest conundrums new general manager Pat Gillick will encounter this winter: Who will be the Phils' Opening Day first baseman in 2006, Jim Thome, or Howard?

[PhillyGirl]

That's farging awesome!