Phillies season 10

Started by MURP, September 24, 2005, 11:33:06 AM

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Don Ho

Quote from: MDS on September 29, 2005, 04:03:51 PM
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on September 29, 2005, 03:54:28 PM
whats wrong with howard at catcher.. big target.. doesn't have to move much..  can get rid of loserthal.. and concentrate on getting an adequate 3b  cf  and #1 pitcher.

does some need to answer that?

"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2005, 03:38:50 AM

Then that genius Mike Missinell says he wants "The Nicaraguan Nightmare" Vicente Padilla as the closer. I like Padilla, but I would shop him via trade for a 3B or C.

i like Mike Miss more than most, when you can get past the fact that most of the stuff he says is just to rile up the fans, he's pretty enjoyable to listen to, IMO.

Conlin also suggested the Padilla/closer thing today in his column.  you had always heard when they got Padilla that he could be a closer. 

the one thing that concerns me is still J-Roll, he's great defensively and the hitting streak is great.  but at the end of last year, we all thought that he figured out the leadoff spot, and it was clear this year that he didn't.  they need somebody who can get on base more regularly.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 30, 2005, 08:19:25 AM
i like Mike Miss more than most, when you can get past the fact that most of the stuff he says is just to rile up the fans, he's pretty enjoyable to listen to, IMO.

Go figure.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 30, 2005, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 30, 2005, 08:19:25 AM
i like Mike Miss more than most, when you can get past the fact that most of the stuff he says is just to rile up the fans, he's pretty enjoyable to listen to, IMO.

Go figure.

what?  :sly
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyGirl

Mike Missanelli is an idiot. He's no better than Eskin or Cataldi. He whines and complains like a 12 year old girl about everything.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 30, 2005, 08:33:19 AM
Mike Missanelli is an idiot. He's no better than Eskin or Cataldi. He whines and complains like a 12 year old girl about everything.

oh, i thought the go figure was a slight at me in some way...


i'm still thinking it might be.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyGirl

LOL..just doesn't surprise me in the least that you really like Missanelli.  :-D
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Rome

Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 30, 2005, 08:33:19 AM
Mike Missanelli is an idiot. He's no better than Eskin or Cataldi. He whines and complains like a 12 year old girl about everything.

12 year-old girls everywhere just cringed at that statement.

PhillyGirl

"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 30, 2005, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2005, 03:38:50 AM

Then that genius Mike Missinell says he wants "The Nicaraguan Nightmare" Vicente Padilla as the closer. I like Padilla, but I would shop him via trade for a 3B or C.

i like Mike Miss more than most, when you can get past the fact that most of the stuff he says is just to rile up the fans, he's pretty enjoyable to listen to, IMO.

Conlin also suggested the Padilla/closer thing today in his column.  you had always heard when they got Padilla that he could be a closer. 

the one thing that concerns me is still J-Roll, he's great defensively and the hitting streak is great.  but at the end of last year, we all thought that he figured out the leadoff spot, and it was clear this year that he didn't.  they need somebody who can get on base more regularly.

Yes, I was briefly on the "Vicente as a closer" wagon. However if they do go get a #1 type guy and Wolf comes back then they have nowhere to put Crazy Vicente. If Wolf is out until July, then Robinson Tejeda can fill in at #5 and Lidle at #4.

I would use Padilla as trade bait. Teams were scouting him hard before the deadline. Use that bait (as pitching reigns supreme in the market) to get a 3B or C.

Rollins is miscast as a lead-off guy. I am a huge JRoll fan and I do not dispute that. But just because he is forced to bat there he shouldn't be penalized because he's not the prototypical leadoff guy. He'd be great in the 6th, 7th 8th or 2nd hole.

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2005, 09:11:37 AM


Rollins is miscast as a lead-off guy. I am a huge JRoll fan and I do not dispute that. But just because he is forced to bat there he shouldn't be penalized because he's not the prototypical leadoff guy. He'd be great in the 6th, 7th 8th or 2nd hole.

i agree with you partially when you say he shouldn't be penalized for being miscast as a leadoff guy. 

J-Roll's skill set is such that he should try to be an effective leadoff hitter.  It appears to me that he doesn't care about being that.  He just wants to swing freely and hit a lot of flyballs.  I think that if he really wanted to, he could be a teriffic leadoff hitter, but he doesn't seem to want to be that.  So, I put some blame on the managers who keep putting him there, and I put some blame on Rollins.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

During this torrid streak he's been getting better at selecting pitches. I think Milt Thompson finally got through to him a little bit. I hope he realizes that it only helps him to see what the pitchers got before going hackin'.

rjs246

Does anyone else find it ironic that Milt Thompson is a hitting coach?
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 30, 2005, 09:29:55 AM
I think Milt Thompson finally got through to him a little bit. I hope he realizes that it only helps him to see what the pitchers got before going hackin'.

i think we are past him learning or realizing anything else about hitting.  i just think he is what he is. 

and what he is, is a good player, they just need to get a leadoff hitter and hit Rollins 2.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: rjs246 on September 30, 2005, 09:30:57 AM
Does anyone else find it ironic that Milt Thompson is a hitting coach?

No, why? He was a good hitter.

He's better than Richie Hebner and Greg Gross though.