Phillies season 10

[Wingspan]

Wingspan, I agree with everything you say there, though I just don't see Thome, Bell, or Leiberthal getting traded.  The Phils have a insurmountable aversion to eating any salary.

MDS, I wouldn't trade Abreu but I sure as hell would trade Burrel now.  That guy is a headcase as far as swinging a bat is concerned. 

me neither. but they could work around that. i dont think thome is as good anymore as he was in 2003-2004, but i find it really hard to beleive he is as bad as he was in the 1st half of 2005.

you only have to deal with leiberthal and bell for one more season. and you may not have to trade bell, make him a bench player. a highly paid bench guy. i think he could be more effective off the bench than as an every day 3B.

leiberthal is gonna be here, so let him sit in the 8hole all year. but bring in a young catcher to supplant him (maybe though burrell or abreu)

i think you need to trade burrell or abreu, not because they are bad players, but because you can not keep trading crap for crap. trade burrell or abreu (again, not both just one). and then move Howard to the OF, that way Thome, if he regains his form, can play everyday, along with howard, and then you have your power guys. i cant see why they couldnt convert ryan howard to the OF, they did it successfully with Burrell.

like i said, i think they are close, and this isnt really all that much tinkering. i do think utley/howard can be the guys to bring the right leadership to the team.

they still need to spend some $$ to get a #1 pitcher in here.

[NGM]

They experimented putting Howard in the outfield this offseason.  For whatever reason it didn't seem to stick.  IF they could get Howard in the outfield this year and bring Victrino along slowly, I would be all for it. 

[SunMo]

yeah, abreu's numbers are great, but where is he late in a big game?  in the corner sucking his thumb.  he's not a winner and never will be.  he has great value around the league because of his numbers.  trade him for a front-line starter, third baseman, or catcher.

[Geowhizzer]

Just looking at Howard's size and mobility, I'm doubtful that he's a good OF candidate.  He'd be too much of a liability defensively.

[BigEd76]

He'd be no different than Floyd or Ramirez...

I wonder if they'd give it another shot after seeing more of him this year.  He's more nimble and has more speed than they originally thought.  2 triples in one week? 

[SunMo]

He'd be no different than Floyd or Ramirez...

I wonder if they'd give it another shot after seeing more of him this year.  He's more nimble and has more speed than they originally thought.  2 triples in one week? 

Marzano was WIP today and he said that's what he's hearing from them down there, that they might give him another shot in LF

[Wingspan]

Just looking at Howard's size and mobility, I'm doubtful that he's a good OF candidate.  He'd be too much of a liability defensively.

have pete incavelia play LF didnt seem to hinder the 93 phils that much. he's still trying to get to the warning track.

i'll take an error every now and then if it has him playing every day with a healthy thome.

[MDS]

Rollins
Utley
Abreu
Thome
Burrell
Howard
Bell
Loserthal

Awful defense, but  against rhp

[BigEd76]

Abreu in CF?

[Rome]

Abreu in CF?

Sure.  Maybe he'll hit lead-off too.

[MDS]

He did play CF when we had Jeremy Giambi 

I said the defense blew, but come on, that line up against rhp is disgusting.

[LBIggle]

whats wrong with howard at catcher.. big target.. doesn't have to move much..  can get rid of loserthal.. and concentrate on getting an adequate 3b  cf  and #1 pitcher.

[MDS]

whats wrong with howard at catcher.. big target.. doesn't have to move much..  can get rid of loserthal.. and concentrate on getting an adequate 3b  cf  and #1 pitcher.

does some need to answer that?

[SunMo]

whats wrong with howard at catcher.. big target.. doesn't have to move much..  can get rid of loserthal.. and concentrate on getting an adequate 3b  cf  and #1 pitcher.

does some need to answer that?

no, treat that question the same way you treat a rape victim when they walk into the room.  you look away and think about something else.

[BigEd76]

Rusch vs Rodriguez in a half hour.  Go Cubs.