New guy evaluations

Started by stillupfront, September 18, 2005, 10:01:22 PM

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Zanshin

Quote from: bobbyinlondon on September 20, 2005, 09:01:41 AM

HOW LONG did it take Mayberry to be consistent? I don't think it was until Reid took over and possibly not until 2000.

Well, Mayberry moved around quite a bit at first until he found his niche...so, it took some time.  But he's been very consistent over the last 4-5 years or so.  And I mean consistent during the course of a game, not the course of a career.  I expect Andrews to be better than Mayberry was...but right now Andrews is a bit more inconsistent.

rjs246

Pinky had more ypc but was allergic to the endzone. Lewis already has as many TDs this year as Pinky did all of last year. His height is a disadvantage, his ability and willingness to go over the middle is an advantage. Honestly, I think it's a wash.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

Pinky has never been much better than Lewis. Theres gonna' come a time were you will have to admit your wrong

by default he is much better since lewis has never done anything for the most part

come the end of this year perhaps lewis will prove that hes better...but as for now its not even close
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phillywin2k5

Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 19, 2005, 07:50:24 AM
Gordon threw in some pretty nice blocks in pass protection. Dude's a keeper.

This is the same thing that i noticed more so than his running. He laid some nice blocks for McNabb. May see him more as a FB if he can block like that proficiently, instead of the lazy Parrot
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Zanshin

I'd love to see more of Gordon at fullback.  He played that quite a bit in St. Louis.  If he could pick it up, it would be nice to see him out there at FB, getting short yardage carries at HB.  And then activate Moats as another spell guy for Westbrook.

shorebird

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
Pinky has never been much better than Lewis. Theres gonna' come a time were you will have to admit your wrong

by default he is much better since lewis has never done anything for the most part

come the end of this year perhaps lewis will prove that hes better...but as for now its not even close

Lets look at the only way to really compare the two at this time, the post season.

Greg Lewis, 2004 Postseason. 3 games
8 rec., 182 yds., 22.8 avg., 1 TD, 52 Long

Pinky, 2004 Postseason. 3 games
8 rec., 141 yds., 17.6 avg., 0 TD, 40 Long

Pinky, 2003 Postseason. 2 games
7 rec., 95 yds., 13.6 avg., 1 TD, 45 long
It bears noting that all these stats came against Green Bay in the first game and in the Championship game, he had goose eggs across the board.

Pinky, 2002 Postseason. 2 games
8 rec. 99 yds., 12.4 avg., 0 TD, 24 Long

Pinky, 2001 Postseason. 3 games
8 rec. 93 yds., 11.6 avg., 0 TD, 41 Long

Pinky 2000 Postseason
1 rec. 5 yds., 5 avg., 0 TD, 5 Long

Sats inc. has Pinky with 7 drops in '03'

Pinky has never had anywere close to as good a post season as Lewis did in his first year! For all those bogus stats about Pinky catching the ball deep, he comes no were close to Lewis's avg. of 22.8 yds. from last years post season. Lewis already has as many TD catches in one post season as Pinky does in 5. In the two post seasons were the Eagles played three games, Pinky still falls short in every catagorey.

Lewis doesn't choke in the clutch, and will not punk out like Pinky has in the past. IMO, theres no contest as to who is and will be better.

ice grillin you

worst comparison ever

youre gonna compare one lewis postseason with pinky stats from 3-4 years ago???...im not even going to get into that debate....mcnabb is ten times the qb now than he was....TO is on the team now...westbrook is a star...ect....there is no comparison

as i said well see how lewis pans out this year...but as it stands right now in this offense id much rather have pinky...
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 20, 2005, 10:58:43 AM
worst comparison ever
Bullcrap. You have a better comparison other than to give it to Pinky by default??

Quoteyoure gonna compare one lewis postseason with pinky stats from 3-4 years ago???...im not even going to get into that debate....mcnabb is ten times the qb now than he was....TO is on the team now...westbrook is a star...ect....there is no comparison
Yes I am comparing Lewis to Pinky's stats from 3-4 ago years up until the here and now! What better way to measure a players worth than by the post season? Your right, there is no comparison. Pinky doesn't hang with Lewis in either year. For Christ sakes, he has one game that doesn't even show up on the stat sheet! He was shut out in the championship game against Carolina! He might as well have not even been on the field. IMO, Pinky goes the way of the other reciever in that game, if not this year, then definatly next.

Quoteas i said well see how lewis pans out this year...but as it stands right now in this offense id much rather have pinky...
Rather have Pinky for what, 'cause he's taller?? What good does that do when he's too scared to go up and get the ball in traffic? Tell me one thing other than the bogus stat of his yardage per catch does Pinky do better than Lewis? Pinky cannot play in the slot.  He's not gonna' make the tough catch and take the hit. And did you not see the stat from '03' with his 7 drops?

Pinky had his best year in '02' when he had 60 catches for 798 yds, the year before he signed his contract, and has gone steadily downhill ever since. He's made some plays, I ain't denying that, but for every play he's made, he's blown just as many. Reid has kept him on because there was no one any better to put in his place. That has changed.

Please, anybody, if you think I'm wrong here, call me out. I'm far from above being proved wrong, I just don't think IGY has done it yet.

General_Failure

With McCants coming in and Wilbur learning how to catch, I don't see how Pinky is even on the team next year.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Tomahawk

Quote from: General_Failure on September 20, 2005, 05:49:09 PM
With McCants coming in and Wilbur learning how to catch, I don't see how Pinky is even on the team next year.

And we pray.

WEST is GOD

Andy will cut Reggie Brown before he cuts Pink.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

Tomahawk

Andy will cut Pinkston before he cuts Reggie Brown.

WEST is GOD

Andy will cut Reggie Brown before he cuts Pink.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

General_Failure

Andy will trade Thrash and cut Hugh before he cuts Pinkston.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Tomahawk

Andy will cut Pinkston before he cuts Reggie Brown.