Is the Price Right?

Started by Feva, August 30, 2005, 01:55:02 PM

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phattymatty

Quote from: FFatPatt on August 31, 2005, 05:22:46 PM
It's also fairly bone-headed to think Peerless Price would come to the Eagles for a reasonable dollar amount with absolutely no promise of starting.  He was beaten out by Dez White in Atlanta, so don't you think he'd be a little bit concerned about being buried on the depth chart in Philadelphia?

Agreed, I don't want to spend a butt-load on him either.  He's going to eventually have to sign with someone, and it's not going to be for top dollar anywhere for the reasons you listed.  It just boggles my mind how some people think healthy competition for a starting spot is bad for any team.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: phattymatty on August 31, 2005, 05:19:05 PM
Thank you Monster, someone else is making sense here.

I can cross this one off of my "Things I'll Never Hear During My Lifetime" list.

Although, Monster's post does carry some truth to it though.  A team should always be looking for ways to improve.  It's an ongoing process that never ends.  So I'm certain that if Reid feels that any of the available receivers can help the team, then he's going to bring them in for a look. If he doesn't think they'll help, we'll never see them. 

I don't really care if they sign someone or not.  If Reid's comfortable with what he's got and doesn't think that Price or anyone else provides a significant upgrade over the current recievers then it's good enough for me.  But just remember, if the Eagles don't sign anyone it doesn't mean that they aren't looking to improve the team.  It means they've already got the best available players. 


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My thing is that I have very little confidence in Reggie Brown in his rookie year. I think he'll be an absolute stud down the line, but you know how rookie WRs are in this system. They just don't do well. If things go wrong with Reggie then we have to go to Darnerian Frickin Mccants. Wouldn't you rather have Warrick or Price there instead?
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on August 31, 2005, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 31, 2005, 05:22:46 PM
It's also fairly bone-headed to think Peerless Price would come to the Eagles for a reasonable dollar amount with absolutely no promise of starting.  He was beaten out by Dez White in Atlanta, so don't you think he'd be a little bit concerned about being buried on the depth chart in Philadelphia?

Agreed, I don't want to spend a butt-load on him either.  He's going to eventually have to sign with someone, and it's not going to be for top dollar anywhere for the reasons you listed.  It just boggles my mind how some people think healthy competition for a starting spot is bad for any team.

Price is still a primadonna and it will take him at least another week to week and a half to realize that... or he won't have to realize it if an idiotic GM steps up and hands him a starting gig no questions asked.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 05:35:31 PM
My thing is that I have very little confidence in Reggie Brown in his rookie year. I think he'll be an absolute stud down the line, but you know how rookie WRs are in this system. They just don't do well. If things go wrong with Reggie then we have to go to Darnerian Frickin Mccants. Wouldn't you rather have Warrick or Price there instead?

I think Reggie is poised to have a very productive year by comparison to other rookie receivers during Reid's tenure.  So far, Freddie had the most productive rookie year.  His stats weren't mind blowing by any means but they were decent.  They were also with James Thrash and Todd Pinkston along side of him.  Having TO on the field is going to help just about any receiver playing with him and teams know who Greg Lewis is too.  They're going to have to account for both of those guys along with Westbrook which should free up a lot of room for Reggie. 

Tomahawk

Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 05:35:31 PM
My thing is that I have very little confidence in Reggie Brown in his rookie year. I think he'll be an absolute stud down the line, but you know how rookie WRs are in this system. They just don't do well. If things go wrong with Reggie then we have to go to Darnerian Frickin Mccants. Wouldn't you rather have Warrick or Price there instead?

Rookies don't do well because they don't get an opportunity to play probably because they sucked and were stupid. Apparently Reggie Brown neither sucks nor is stupid.  At least I can't think of any rookie that got any where close to significant playing time.

WEST is GOD

I wish I had the confidence in him that you do, but I just don't. I could pretend I did, and talk about how much confidence I have, but it would be all lies. Down the line I think he'll be a heck of a player, but this year I'm not comfortable with him getting a lot of balls. Small mistakes like he made against the Bengals where he went flat and could've easily had a TD scare me. More power to you for being confident in him. I wish I was in your boat, but I can't trust them with receivers.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 05:45:56 PM
I wish I had the confidence in him that you do, but I just don't. I could pretend I did, and talk about how much confidence I have, but it would be all lies. Down the line I think he'll be a heck of a player, but this year I'm not comfortable with him getting a lot of balls. Small mistakes like he made against the Bengals where he went flat and could've easily had a TD scare me. More power to you for being confident in him. I wish I was in your boat, but I can't trust them with receivers.

Reggie's gotten a lot of time with the first team offense so far.  Probably more than any other rookie reciever that Reid's drafted.  So he's already a step ahead in terms of playing in the offense and with McNabb.  RE: the Bengals game.  Perfect example of what I'm talking about.  If that situation ever comes up again, Reggie will be in the right spot.  I'm sure McNabb talked to him about it once they got off the field and they probably did a little flim review after the game to make sure it sinks in. 

And it's not so much the confidence in Reggie that I have but in the coaching staff.  If they think Reggie (or any other player) can't be counted on if their number gets called, them I'm certain they'll bring in someone if they feel that individual can perform. 

Feva

Quote from: FFatPatt on August 31, 2005, 05:39:01 PM
Price is still a primadonna and it will take him at least another week to week and a half to realize that... or he won't have to realize it if an idiotic GM steps up and hands him a starting gig no questions asked.
Still doesn't hurt the Eagles to make an offer.  If someone comes along and outbids the Eagles for him, then hey... the Eagles tried.  Price's rep in the league is ish right now.  He NEEDS a year to prove that he can still get it done in order for him to get some real $$$.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's looking for a short term deal instead of being locked in long term to a low money deal that he's likely to get now.

Look... I'm not sitting here with a stiffy for Price, but I just don't see the downside to bringing in a proven WR to compete with Lewis and Brown.  I also don't see the upside to simply bringing in just another body.  Again, if Lewis and Brown beat Price/Warrick/McCants/Ferguson/Whoever... then we've simply added depth.  If Glew and Reggie can't beat out Price or whoever... then our offense just got better because we've upgraded.  We're not going to pay much for another WR anyway.  But we have the potential to add even ANOTHER weapon to the offense and make it that much tougher to defend.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Who's to say the Eagles didn't make price an offer, or at least call and get an idea?

Sgt PSN

Quote from: FFatPatt on August 31, 2005, 05:57:02 PM
Who's to say the Eagles didn't make price an offer, or at least call and get an idea?

I am.  But I'm not telling. 

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Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 31, 2005, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 05:35:31 PM
My thing is that I have very little confidence in Reggie Brown in his rookie year. I think he'll be an absolute stud down the line, but you know how rookie WRs are in this system. They just don't do well. If things go wrong with Reggie then we have to go to Darnerian Frickin Mccants. Wouldn't you rather have Warrick or Price there instead?

I think Reggie is poised to have a very productive year by comparison to other rookie receivers during Reid's tenure.  So far, Freddie had the most productive rookie year.  His stats weren't mind blowing by any means but they were decent.  They were also with James Thrash and Todd Pinkston along side of him.  Having TO on the field is going to help just about any receiver playing with him and teams know who Greg Lewis is too.  They're going to have to account for both of those guys along with Westbrook which should free up a lot of room for Reggie. 

The thing is we won't know until the season starts. Say it's week 4 and he's struggling. He's running bad routes. Now what do we do? Mccants isn't the best in between the 20s guy. All the good FAs are scooped up. We are screwed.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: Monster on August 31, 2005, 06:04:29 PM
The thing is we won't know until the season starts. Say it's week 4 and he's struggling. He's running bad routes. Now what do we do? Mccants isn't the best in between the 20s guy. All the good FAs are scooped up. We are screwed.

Im sorry, but exactly what QB was McCants receiving from the past few years again?
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PoopyfaceMcGee

You're right.  Just to be safe, we should sign every FA WR currently on the market.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Eagles 2005 WR roster:

Terrell Owens
Greg Lewis
Reggie Brown
Peerless Price
Peter Warrick
Koren Robinson
Darnerian McCants
Billy McMullen
Carlos Perez

We'll just have to go light on the lines.  No problem, because injuries are never an issue there at all.