Eagles release Simon

[Rome]

Shifting money from a position that is amply supplied and then outlaying it to two guys (Westbrook & Lewis) who've proven to me more valuable than Simon is hardly nothing.

I'm assuming that's what the Eagles have in mind here.

If I'm wrong about that, I'll gladly eat crow.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I don't think Corey deserves what he was asking for either, but I don't blame anyone for trying. 

I don't blame them either, but I can laugh at them when they're setting themselves up to fail.

[hunt]

yay...giving simon away for nothing is pure genius.  great move.

Sign Westbrook, extend Lewis....if/when those 2 things happen, will that still be nothing?

yes.  those guys are already on the team.

if releasing simon is the ONLY WAY they could possibly afford to extend westbrook & lewis, then i'd have to think about it....but i'm not convinced that's the case.

[phattymatty]

Shifting money from a position that is amply supplied and then outlaying it to two guys (Westbrook & Lewis) who've proven to me more valuable than Simon is hardly nothing.
I'm assuming that's what the Eagles have in mind here.

IF that happens, I like the move too.  But it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they didn't give that money to either of them.

[PhillyPhreak54]

What's the big deal here?

Look, I used to defend Simon like crazy when people would call him useless and everything else in the book. But last year told me a lot about him. If you are entering a contract year then shouldn't you be motivated to prove you are worth the big money?

Simon wasn't. He was not worth a thing in the first 8 weeks of the season because he needed to miss some training camp for "personal reasons" that coincidentally came after he rejected the Eagles final offer to him.

Look guys, the Eagles offered Corey Simon a 5 YEAR CONTRACT WORTH $34M WITH A $9M SIGNING BONUS in 2003 and him and Roosevelt Barnes rejected it.

That is more than a fair deal and comparable to what Carolina gave Kris Jenkins and to what Tampa gave Booger McFarland.

But he wanted more. And honestly, did he look like he deserved to be one of, if not the highest paid DT in the game to you guys? Not to me he didn't.

[Cerevant]

You wouldn't be mad if a co-worker who was much less important to you got paid more?

(more money = more than the Eagles offered in their contract extension talks)
Which Philadelphia Eagle making more money than Simon is not more important to the team? 

Which NFL team offered to pay Simon what he thinks he's worth?

Which NFL DT had worse stats than Simon while making more money?

My problem is that he has no basis for his demands, and has shown nothing to indicate that he would be worth even what the Eagles offered?  Why take the risk on a player whose career is obviously going downhill? (see my previous post)

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[PoopyfaceMcGee]

yay...giving simon away for nothing is pure genius.  great move.

We didn't have Simon.  We had exclusive rights to negotiation with him for a while, but we didn't even have that recently because negotiation on a long-term deal could not commence until he signed the tender.  The said "exclusive rights" were not worth a penny or a pick because of his contract demands.  When it became apparent that he was not going to be worth the contract on the table for him, it was taken off the table.

Simon was traded for $5.1 million of real money.  Again, I will say that I think the money would be better used to buy Christina Lurie a new face than on Corey Simon.  Luckily for those that don't believe that, I think most of it WILL be used on new contracts for excellent, hard-working Eagles players.

[SunMo]

phreak, it's not even about the long-term deal for me.  they had him for 5 million, this year.  this is TO's last year, this is the year they need to win the super bowl.  they had a pro-bowl caliber DT and they let him go for nothing, that's where I have the problem. 

if they do extend Westbrook and Lewis and it was a direct result of getting the 5 million back from Simon, i will be better with it.  but right now, i just think it's a bad move.

[hunt]

i don't think anyone here is advocating giving simon what he's asking for long-term...all i'm saying is why not keep the guy for this year if you're really trying to win the super bowl.  simon doesn't suck...he's been a starter on this team his entire career.  unless they spend that $5 mill to improve the team, they just gave away a starter for nothing & made the team worse...in a year where they're trying to take that next step & win the super bowl.

[phattymatty]

You wouldn't be mad if a co-worker who was much less important to you got paid more?

(more money = more than the Eagles offered in their contract extension talks)
Which Philadelphia Eagle making more money than Simon is not more important to the team? 

I'm agreeing that Corey's demands are ridiculous and undeserved.  They should have re-upped Westbrook though.  And if they do that now I'll be happy.

I just think that too many people on here praise the FO too much and it's kind of sickening.

[hunt]

yay...giving simon away for nothing is pure genius.  great move.

We didn't have Simon. 

it was widely known that simon was going to report before the 1st regular season game...they did have him.

[PhillyPhreak54]

The fact of the matter here is that Corey thought he could sit at home and chill. But Mike Patterson stole his job.

If Patterson does not play well in camp or the PS, Simon stays.

But he was expendable because of Mike Patterson. No other way to frame it.

And IGY, come on, bro. Spare me with the "what if Hollis gets hurt" stuff. Any one of those 53 guys is liable to get hurt. Sure Hollis loves to get injured, but DT is a deep position. They rotate and keep guys fresh.

What if Donovan got hurt?
What if Westbrook got hurt?

I could go on. But to lose Corey Simon...I'm not worried about it. And I'll probably be painted as drinking Jeffrey and Joe's Kool-Aid, but I will trust Jim Johnson.

Johnson tells it like it is, does he not? He says the DTs can get it done.

[SunMo]

bottom line is they are not a better team without Simon, and they are trying to win the super bowl.

[SunMo]

Johnson tells it like it is, does he not? He says the DTs can get it done.

i used to think that too, but the whole Simoneau thing has made me not believe him as much.

[MadMarchHare]

Meh, the guys at DT will be fine as is.  W/O Simon.  He gave us a few good years, and we get 5MM in the till for him.  I'm OK with it.

We certainly got more out of Corey than some of our other first rounders..... (freddie sux).