Akers Could Be Getting A Contract Extension Soon

Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 23, 2005, 05:06:43 AM

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rjs246

Akers is a player. He's clutch and consistent and actually contributes tackles to the STs. Pay the man.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

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Nope, I didn't miss it...but you said that then went on to compare it anyway

in no way did i ever financially compare the two

as for the other part...how do you think it wil look in the lockeroom if they redo a kicker with two years left on his deal but cant do the same for the best WR in the league...arguably the teams most important player...and a very good defensive tackle...

now im not blaming the FO for all of those players not getting done...just pointing out how signing akers may not go over to well...

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MURP

Im sure Banner can get a deal done that wont hurt the teams cap. 

phillywin2k5

Quote from: Zanshin on August 23, 2005, 08:39:25 AM
The Eagles aren't in the most dire of cap circumstances.  You know that the Akers deal will give him some nice upfront money, but will be backloaded to look like a better deal than it is.

Next year (at the latest) Simon comes off the books, and that will be more meaningful than anything a kicker gets.  So, if the Eagles think they have the room this year, they can frontload the meaningful part of the deal so that Akers could conceivably have an even lower cap number next year.

There are a ton of ways to do it...but there's no way anything they realistically do for Akers will have a detrimental effect on the FO keeping guys they feel they have to hold on to.

Akers does deserve to be a top 5 paid kicker and wont even really impact the cap since most of his current money is salary. So to give him maybe a 4-5 mil signing bonus and small salary over 5 years. Westbrook will be taken care of before next season im sure, the Eagles are assuming now that Simon will be gone. The Eagles also need to work on Mike Lewis. Next year I think the Eagles will look to fill the DT position with more depth thru the draft. I think the biggest thing for the Eagles right now is that they need a bull dozer RB to pick up those short situations.
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Zanshin

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2005, 08:53:18 AM

in no way did i ever financially compare the two

as for the other part...how do you think it wil look in the lockeroom if they redo a kicker with two years left on his deal but cant do the same for the best WR in the league...arguably the teams most important player...and a very good defensive tackle...

now im not blaming the FO for all of those players not getting done...just pointing out how signing akers may not go over to well...



Of course you did.  You linked the negotiations between Westbrook and Akers, and they're totally unrelated.  Even the market value comparisions for each position are in very different states.

And I don't hear a lot of players clammoring about the Eagles not extending Owens one year into his seven year deal...even they, in everything I've read, thought that to be ridiculous.  And which DT do you mean, Simon?  You think the other players are pulling for him to get a $16-17 Mil signing bonus?  That's money out of their pockets...not to mention that the Eagles would be retarded to give a moderately above average player a deal that far out of alignment with market value.  Think, man.

ice grillin you

Of course you did.  You linked the negotiations between Westbrook and Akers, and they're totally unrelated.  Even the market value comparisions for each position are in very different states.

ummm no i didnt...i said to say akers has no impact financially is wrong...but that was never my point and i never compared the two in that way...i was strictly talking about how it would look if akers were redone but not TO...westbrook...simon

And I don't hear a lot of players clammoring about the Eagles not extending Owens one year into his seven year deal...even they, in everything I've read, thought that to be ridiculous.  And which DT do you mean, Simon?  You think the other players are pulling for him to get a $16-17 Mil signing bonus?  That's money out of their pockets...not to mention that the Eagles would be retarded to give a moderately above average player a deal that far out of alignment with market value.  Think, man.

you are looking at it in terms of each individual player...and youre looking at it as a pro front office fan...i can assure you the players will look at it in terms of the big picture...and they will look at it much differently as they dont side with the front office...

as for the players opinion towards TO...im pretty sure most of them believe he should get more money but that he went about it in a moronic way...that said let the eagles redo their kicker and youll see their attitudes change...anywhere from puzzlement to outrage

now if they redo westbrook and akers then i think it becomes a non issue...but i also think redoing akers gives westbrook more ground to stick to his number...a number that right now is higher than the eagles wanna pay

imo it would be a bad move to redo akers...let him play out his two years and see what happens then
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Beermonkey

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2005, 08:53:18 AM
as for the other part...how do you think it wil look in the lockeroom if they redo a kicker with two years left on his deal but cant do the same for the best WR in the league...arguably the teams most important player...and a very good defensive tackle...


One is a player in the top 2 of his position, who is in year 5 of a 7 year deal & being paid like he's in the top 20.

The other is a player in the top 3 of his position, who is in year 2 of a 7-yr deal & is being paid in the top 3.

There's no comparison of the situations & highly doubt that team mates would be concerned about him getting a raise, which in comparison to the other positions is insignificant.

mussa

rework AKers

get rid of simon

rework westbrook

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Quote from: ice grillin you on August 23, 2005, 09:34:46 AM
[...i can assure you the players will look at it in terms of the big picture...and they will look at it much differently as they dont side with the front office...



Oh, well if yoooouu assure me, you must be right.  You're psychic ability to mindmeld with Eagles players is renowned.

And arguably the best kicker in the game-- and in the history of the Eagles-- getting a deal in line with the best at his position should have zero impact on Westbrook trying to get a better deal than similar players at his position.  That Dom. Davis deal should be the benchmark for Westy's slot. 

It Has NOTHING TO DO WITH AKERS.

ice grillin you

One is a player in the top 2 of his position, who is in year 5 of a 7 year deal & being paid like he's in the top 20.

The other is a player in the top 3 of his position, who is in year 2 of a 7-yr deal & is being paid in the top 3.

There's no comparison of the situations & highly doubt that team mates would be concerned about him getting a raise, which in comparison to the other positions is insignificant.


youre getting way to geeky about this...players dont go on internet message boards and discuss who is making what...what year of their contract they are in ...whos in the top 6 of their position...joe banner is god...andy please have my baby blah blah blah...WE do that

all they will see is the kicker getting done while the stud WR RB and DT dont

ill say it again and this will be the last thing i say...DONT do akers...hes a kicker making over a million a year with two years left on his contract...thanks but no thanks..we will check back with you in 07 dave
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Zanshin

Ice Doofus.  Akers isn't asking for more than clear market value-- and if he was, he wouldn't get done either.  And where is this stud DT you keep talking about?  I know you can't possibly mean Simon.

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Zanshin

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