like sands thru an hourglass so are the days of TO's life

Started by ice grillin you, August 10, 2005, 03:02:23 PM

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bobbyinlondon

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2005, 09:51:21 AM
SAS is now blasting away on WIP...

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today. I'm at work, can't get WIP and I had to take my home PC in to get it serviced. I will be watching the game tonight (or rather, tomorrow morning, as it will be 1am when it starts).

PhillyGirl

Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 15, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2005, 09:51:21 AM
SAS is now blasting away on WIP...

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today. I'm at work, can't get WIP and I had to take my home PC in to get it serviced. I will be watching the game tonight (or rather, tomorrow morning, as it will be 1am when it starts).

You actually care what Screamin has to say on anything? lol
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

MURP

Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 15, 2005, 09:54:20 AM

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today.

blah blah, yap yap, blah yapitity yap yap.

there, i sumed up his entire career for you.  no need to thank me.

MadMarchHare

QuoteHe had me until the sit-ups.

Before that spectacle at his home on Wednesday afternoon - and it can be described as nothing else - Terrell Owens had a case.

There was a $48,724,000 contract. There were legitimate concerns about whether the Eagles would honor it entirely. There was a system that appears far from player-friendly. And a birth certificate that mandates that he look out for his self-interest.

But after that fiasco at his home in Moorestown, which would give any circus a run for its money, Owens has become a caricature of himself. The situation has surpassed embarrassing. So much so that regardless of his case, its merits or any genuine passion behind it, his actions simply cannot be defended any longer.

A player can't be defended when he tells his offensive coordinator not to speak to him unless he's spoken to. No player can be defended when he continues to take one jab after another at a teammate who has said nothing about him, especially when that teammate happens to be Donovan McNabb, the star.

Such flagrant insubordination, disrespect and defiance can never be tolerated - even if Eagles coach Andy Reid told Owens to shut up, as Owens claimed Reid did.

Reid and the Eagles' organization would be absolute fools to tolerate any more of this nonsense.

And the rest of us would be fools to grant Owens the benefit of the doubt any longer.

Myself included.

While a city strapped itself to the Eagles' cause, spewing venom in Owens' direction because of his contract squabbles and the egregious manner in which he allowed his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, to handle things, I never saw much of a problem.

What I saw was Owens' 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns; the infusion of some personality that the Eagles desperately needed; and McNabb's 3,875-yard output, along with 31 TD passes, last season.

Owens has a seven-year deal. His talent screams that he's worth every penny of the $48.7 million and then some. And because a collective-bargaining agreement allows the Eagles to go to a player to cut his salary or waive any long-term obligations, I see no problem with a player's attempting to revisit his contractual situation if he performs up to par.

Particularly when the alternative is Greg Lewis and some no-name who may not even end up being better than Todd Pinkston.

But taking into account Owens' petulance and insubordination and then his pleas for sympathy - with Rosenhaus literally holding his hand - the situation is downright sickening, no longer capable of being stomached.

If Owens was so insulted, so frustrated by Reid's telling him to shut up, why didn't he just leave training camp, go away and vent his frustration, after getting the week off?

Why did he go home and entertain a media contingent he had spent a week ignoring?

Why did he shoot basketballs, lift weights, and do sit-ups in his yard to entertain the reporters?

Where was the frustration? The anger? The look that's on the faces of most people who have been "disrespected," as Owens has continuously claimed to have been over the last few weeks?

I didn't see that on Wednesday when he was talking to the media. I saw too much of it on Thursday while he was sitting side-by-side with Rosenhaus, getting interviewed by everyone but Barbara Walters.

Meanwhile, the one person displaying class in this whole ordeal ends up being the one person insulted by Owens the most.

"I still, to this day, see no reason for us to talk," McNabb said, responding to Owens' saying he had no desire to speak to the quarterback. "When we step on this field, it's all about business. We're professionals that line up and do the right thing."

The right thing for Owens still could have had everything to do with pursuing a new contract. He could have stayed unhappy, let it be known, maintained his rift with McNabb and a few others, and simply gone about his business.

Instead, he keeps going too far. He even claims now that he signed a secret waiver to play in the Super Bowl - a claim the Eagles categorically deny. He signs autographs for kids when the cameras are away after refusing for days to sign them when the cameras were rolling.

The situation has surpassed ridiculous purely because Owens appears to have no clue about how ridiculous he looks.

"I'm a good teammate," he said. "Just because I don't speak to a couple of guys doesn't mean anything. I have no desire to speak to [McNabb]."

Well, that's smart - a receiver has no desire to develop chemistry with the guy assigned to throw him the ball.

Brilliant! Now let's see if it gets him a new contract.

Sadly, we know it won't happen. At least not to Owens' liking.

It's time to dismiss this case.

Anyone but Reid.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: MURP on August 15, 2005, 09:55:46 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 15, 2005, 09:54:20 AM

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today.

blah blah, yap yap, blah yapitity yap yap.

there, i sumed up his entire career for you.  no need to thank me.

:-D :-D :-D
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

ice grillin you

he basically reiterated what he wrote...btw he didnt raise his voice one time much less scream

he said that whenever he writes a critical piece on anyone he calls them first to let them that its coming.....he tried to do this with TO but his cell number was changed...he then tried to call rosenhaus who didnt return his call...he was like eff it they gotta read it in the paper then

stephen a is the mack
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 15, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2005, 09:51:21 AM
SAS is now blasting away on WIP...

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today. I'm at work, can't get WIP and I had to take my home PC in to get it serviced. I will be watching the game tonight (or rather, tomorrow morning, as it will be 1am when it starts).

He pretty much echoed his statements in the column that MMH linked.

He said that he hasn't talked to TO in awhile and when he tried to call him before he wrote the column, he found out that TO had changed his cellphone number. He said that he always calls athletes prior to blasting them to ask for comment, but he couldn't do it this time. He said he tried to call Rosenhaus to get in contact and was never gotten back to by Drew so he said "the hell with it" and wrote it anyways.

He said that he thinks things will only get worse and that TO is the most stubborn person he's ever met. He always thinks he right so he sees no option out there where he comes in and shuts up.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2005, 09:57:35 AM
he basically reiterated what he wrote...btw he didnt raise his voice one time much less scream

he said that whenever he writes a critical piece on anyone he calls them first to let them that its coming.....he tried to do this with TO but his cell number was changed...he then tried to call rosenhaus who didnt return his call...he was like eff it they gotta read it in the paper then

stephen a is the mack


So not surprised that you think so.  ::)
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Father Demon

Quote
Owens has a seven-year deal. His talent screams that he's worth every penny of the $48.7 million and then some. And because a collective-bargaining agreement allows the Eagles to go to a player to cut his salary or waive any long-term obligations, I see no problem with a player's attempting to revisit his contractual situation if he performs up to par.

So SAS thinkks that if you perform up to expectations you should be able to get a new contract for yourself?  What kind of backwards-ass logic does this shteinhead use?
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

ice grillin you

So SAS thinkks that if you perform up to expectations you should be able to get a new contract for yourself?  What kind of backwards-ass logic does this shteinhead use?

no he thinks a player has the right to try and re-do an existing contract just as the team has the right to cut the player under that same contract

i wholeheartedly agree with that...but it has to be taken on an individual basis...and in TO's case he has no ground to stand on

now if you look at a javion walker or a westbrook then its a different story
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Father Demon

No matter what he thinks, and what you agree with, he's wrong.  The CBA has the rules listed, agreed to by each side -- management and players association.  Until those rules change, NO PLAYER has the RIGHT to a new contract.  They can ask, they can beg, and they can wish -- but the rules are there to be played under by both sides.

And my point was, by SAS's logic, a player who is on par with expectations should have the opportunity to renegotiate.  That is, quite simply, stupid-talk.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

ice grillin you

NO PLAYER has the RIGHT to a new contract.

no but they have a right to ask...and many players get one...TO isnt going to be one of them and he shouldnt...but you act as if players dont ask for and get new contracts every year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Tomahawk

Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on August 15, 2005, 10:34:27 AM
And my point was, by SAS's logic, a player who is on par with expectations should have the opportunity to renegotiate.  That is, quite simply, stupid-talk.

That's assuming the player has what could be at least construed as an equitable deal.  TO, a year into his contract for good money, obviously has an equitable deal. Hines Ward, a consummate team player and professional, does not. Ward is on par with expectations; however, is contract is up to par with his actual value.

bobbyinlondon

Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 15, 2005, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 15, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2005, 09:51:21 AM
SAS is now blasting away on WIP...

Please keep us out of towners or better yet, out of country folk informed on what he says today. I'm at work, can't get WIP and I had to take my home PC in to get it serviced. I will be watching the game tonight (or rather, tomorrow morning, as it will be 1am when it starts).

You actually care what Screamin has to say on anything? lol

I just like to keep updated on anything he says about the Eagles. I'm working days this week, and I only have internet access while I'm at work, since mine is in the shop.