players vs front office

[Eaglez]

I wonder if T.O. would be complaining if he made, say, 6.5 million last year and 6 million this year? He would still get the 12.5 over the 2 year period but it would be structured differently. People have to understand that to fit players under the cap GM's and owners are going to have to structure deals with everyone else in mind. The Eagles could have afforded to pay TO 9 million last year because they could afford to pay him that much while still maintaining obligations to the other players. This year he 'only' gets paid 3.5, but what they don't tell you is the total cap structure for the Eagles organization and who else they have to pay. Maybe Kearse is getting a big pay year this year and they can't afford to restructure, or they have to factor in incentive based bonuses against the cap, and a ton of other factors that go into the contract formulation process.

It's just not as cut and dry. There are a ton of nuances involved, especially when you need to fit 53 guys under a cap with many incentive based bonuses and a variety of salary structures.

I just don't think this would be an issue if TO made 6.5 million this season and 6.0 last, even though the ends are exactly the same.

Thats just something you have to deal with when you have a salary cap.

[TempleOwl]

Every player in every sport is a product of the team and the players they play with.  In Westbrook's case, he is made for Andy's system.  He should be happy the Eagles are pleased with his performace and have offered him a generous contract.  There are perhaps three players on this team right now that I feel are just great players and would be no matter where they played.  They are TO, McNabb and Dawkins.  There are players that may eventually fit that category but right now those are the three.

I think that if any one of those players went to the FO discreetly and allowed the FO to appear to be proactively renegotiating a deal it might get done.  THis FO will NEVER allow a contract negotiation to be done in the press.  I have been an Eagles fan for 40 years and this FO is tops and has proven that they are tops in the NFL too.  I have disagreed with the Eagles FO many times on small issues but not the ones that make or break a season.

If you want proof look at the NHL.  Who did the Flyers call when the NHL instituted a cap?  Joe Banner that's who.  The next thing we know they've signed three marquis players and made difficult decisions about other popular veteran players.  I can agree with this FO because they know how to put a winning team on the field.  If that should change I'll let them know about it.

I can think of NO SITUATION where holding out would be justifiable to me.  You sign a contract, you live by its terms.  Any player or agent who thinks that's the way to get the Eagles FO to listen is a jackass.

[JTrotter Fan]

And I still haven't seen anyone who can tell most of us how Owens outperformed his deal. After all, he didn't establish any new career highs--his TDs and yardage were about his average and his catches were just below what he averaged in SF

i agree with you and believe TO to be one of the worst people on the planet..

Comments like this make you look like a complete jackass.

Worst people on the planet? So, he's among the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, kidnappers, etc?

At least this forum has a whipping boy...and deservedly so!!  IGY...dude, chill with the TO bashing.

[rjs246]

I've got five bucks that says TO gets his strength from the blood of murdered orphans.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'll take your bet.


But only because I know his strength comes from eating reproductive organs of the endangered bald eagle.

[JTrotter Fan]

I eat the reproductive organs of the endangered bald eagle and i like it!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

(the above proud message brought proudly to you by the proud sponsor of "proud" Greg Lewis)

[JTrotter Fan]

You forgot "Proud."

[General_Failure]

I EAT RPRDCTVE ORGNS OF NDANGRD BLD IGLS N I LUV IT!

[PhillyGirl]

As a woman, I can only sit here and say, "Damn" 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Just like Spadaro, I can only sit here and say, "Damn" 

Fixed.

[PhillyGirl]

 

[General_Failure]

You'd think the professor would have developed some SPF 50 while they were all stuck on the island.

[NGM]

As a woman, I can only sit here and say, "Damn" 

As a man I can only say shut up PG. 

[JTrotter Fan]

You'd think the professor would have developed some SPF 50 while they were all stuck on the island.

I just now got the Gilligan reference...good one!  Nice hat TO!!