Smoking ban in Philadelphia approved

[SunMo]

5 points to me for not getting involved in this argument...again

[ice grillin you]

No. It isn't my job to keep you from inhaling smoke. Nor is it the government's job. It's your job. Don't go to bars where people smoke if you don't want to. Bleeding heart politics are insulting to basic human independence.

if you dont have no smoking laws 99% of bars will be smoking...then what do i do?

theres also the people that work there...a huge section of the service industry should not have to work in a place that can kill you...no different than making factory workers have to work in an asbestos filled building...it why chemical plants have governmental standards

public safeguards are all over our society...this is nothing new....you just happen to be a smoker or ex smoker so you take this personally

[Sgt PSN]

5 points to me for not getting involved in this argument...again

Infinity points to me for not being you......for always.  

[rjs246]

No. It isn't my job to keep you from inhaling smoke. Nor is it the government's job. It's your job. Don't go to bars where people smoke if you don't want to. Bleeding heart politics are insulting to basic human independence.

if you dont have no smoking laws 99% of bars will be smoking...then what do i do?

theres also the people that work there...a huge section of the service industry should not have to work in a place that can kill you...no different than making factory workers have to work in an asbestos filled building...it why chemical plants have governmental standards

public safeguards are all over our society...this is nothing new....you just happen to be a smoker or ex smoker so you take this personally

The employee angle is the only defensible argument you've provided as far as I'm concerned. So good job of making a good point.

And the reason I take it personally is because this is just another example of the government sticking its nose into people's business where it isn't needed. It seems to me that they get bored and try to pass laws 'for our own good' to justify their existence. People have been going to smoke-filled bars for over a century. And somehow, despite the evils of smoke-filled bars, the human population lives longer and longer the more time goes on. It's an unnecessary, intrusive law, and that's what gets me all fired up about it.

[phattymatty]

5% of people who smoke get lung cancer.  it's all a big myth.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The other 95% get emphysema?

[SunMo]

5 points to me for not getting involved in this argument...again

Infinity points to me for not being you......for always. 

souderton >>>>>>kansas city

[rjs246]

5% of people who smoke get lung cancer.  it's all a big myth.

Shut yer yap-hole, pill head.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Everything in Pennsylvania is "blue state".  There are no dumb racist hicks in Pennsylvania.

Likewise, there are no do-gooder liberals in Kansas or North Carolina.

[rjs246]

The KKK hardly even exists in PA.

[ice grillin you]

The other 95% get emphysema?

90

5% throat cancer

Everything in Pennsylvania is "blue state".  There are no dumb racist hicks in Pennsylvania.

luckily philadelphia controls what the rest of the state does...hence blue state

[Wingspan]

public bars and restaurants arent private

i agree if its truly a private club then they should be able to do what they want

but the public at large should be able to go out and eat and drink where they want without having to suck in chemicals that kill you

That's the thing. Bars and restaurants are NOT public property. They are privately owned, which the public is invited to enter.

If they were public property, then their sidewalks should be covered by the city cleanup crew...and the waiters and bartenders would be state employees.

i mean if you built the restaurant in your back yard its probably on private land but i would venture to guess that 95% of public restaurants and bars in the country are not on privately owned land....

What? Your ventured guess would be dead wrong, in any colored state.

Every square inch of land not owned by the gov't (State parks, national parks, municipal buildings, posts offices, streets...etc) is considered private property.

[ice grillin you]

so the actual land in big cities is owned by individuals?...not the structures but for example chestnut street in philly is privately owned by someone?

[rjs246]

He included streets as an example of government property...

[ice grillin you]

right which is my point...the bar that the govt passed the smoking law for sits on govt property