Smoking ban in Philadelphia approved

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The smoking ban in Florida was a boon to the bar business.

I know it's a different climate and all but it's been a rousing success here.

It encourages prissy losers to go out and overspend on their smoke-free cosmos and daqueris.

[rjs246]

The smoking ban in Florida was a boon to the bar business.

I know it's a different climate and all but it's been a rousing success here.

It encourages prissy losers to go out and overspend on their smoke-free cosmos and daqueris.

Ha. Nicely put.

[Wingspan]

actually the smoking ban has increased business in almost every place it has been implemented. there are a lot more non smokers than there are smokers in this country...

what a bar may lose in smoker business, they are getting from non smokers who will go now that there is a ban.

[ice grillin you]

the reason theres no loss of business is because contrary to the bitching and moaning of smokers not a single one of them stops going to bars because of a smoking ban...they still go they just smoke outside like all good smokers should...and then they complain about it over their beer

everyone knows this which is why ever single smoking ban ever put forth passes

[The BIGSTUD]

IMO private business owners shouldn't be allowed to allow everything they choose in their bars. I have no problem with the government telling them what to do.

They just need to get over themselves and their insecurities.

The government is bossing you around, OMG IT'S LIEK THE EDN OF THE WORLD!!11!!

wah wah

It's healthier, end of story.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

IMO private business owners shouldn't be allowed to allow everything they choose in their bars. I have no problem with the government telling them what to do.

They just need to get over themselves and their insecurities.

The government is bossing you around, OMG IT'S LIEK THE EDN OF THE WORLD!!11!!

wah wah

It's healthier, end of story.

So, you and IGY are exactly in agreement.  That speaks volumes to the rest of us.


My whole point is that if it truly improves business, then the private business owners would all be motivated to ban smoking from their establishments of their own free will.  The fact that many bar owners choose to allow smoking means that they are either throwing away profit or that the idea of banning smoking in bars actually increasing business is a complete myth perpetuated by the anti-smoking causeheads.

[The BIGSTUD]

People are afraid to ban smoking because even if it improves business in other areas it may not improve it there. It may, but they don't want to take the risk.

Even if it does hurt business, it won't hurt it enough to make the establishment suffer significantly. I don't recall reading about any bars that closed down in any of the towns that have smoking bans because of it. Plus, no one is going to stop going if you look at it logically. People want to go to bars and drink. They have no where else to go nearby because NJ has the ban too. So they ultimately will suck it up and go and smoke outside. Private business owners shouldn't be allowed to regulate things like this in their establishment.

[ice grillin you]

i dont believe it helps business altho thats what places like new york city have claimed

but it definitely does not hurt business....people are going to go to bars no matter what...people who hate the smoke like me are gonna go no matter what and people who smoke arent gonna stop going to bars

when its not sports bunkley knows what hes talking about....its a health issue plain and simple...smoke outside where you are not hurting/bothering anyone

[SunMo]

IMO private business owners shouldn't be allowed to allow everything they choose in their bars. I have no problem with the government telling them what to do.

They just need to get over themselves and their insecurities.

The government is bossing you around, OMG IT'S LIEK THE EDN OF THE WORLD!!11!!

wah wah

It's healthier, end of story.

you would've been a hit in WWII Germany

[Wingspan]

i like to smoke outside while putting my cigarettes out on peoples palms.

[SunMo]

when its not sports bunkley knows what hes talking about....its a health issue plain and simple...smoke outside where you are not hurting/bothering anyone

don't go to a place that allows smoking if it bothers you

[The BIGSTUD]

when its not sports bunkley knows what hes talking about....its a health issue plain and simple...smoke outside where you are not hurting/bothering anyone

don't go to a place that allows smoking if it bothers you

With a ban, smokers and non-smokers alike can go so it's fair for everyone. Why make certain groups of people not be able to go? Now everyone can go and enjoy themselves.

[SunMo]

With a ban, smokers and non-smokers alike can go so it's fair for everyone. Why make certain groups of people not be able to go? Now everyone can go and enjoy themselves.

then impose a ban on clubs that play music.  it's unhealthy to my ear drums and it bothers me.  dummy.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

i dont believe it helps business altho thats what places like new york city have claimed

but it definitely does not hurt business....people are going to go to bars no matter what...people who hate the smoke like me are gonna go no matter what and people who smoke arent gonna stop going to bars

when its not sports bunkley knows what hes talking about....its a health issue plain and simple...smoke outside where you are not hurting/bothering anyone

So, your first two paragraphs completely contradict each other, unless you are actually claiming that the most likely scenario is absolutely no change in the bottom line whatsoever, which is complete B.S.

And your last paragraph just proves you've gone completely batty.

[The BIGSTUD]

With a ban, smokers and non-smokers alike can go so it's fair for everyone. Why make certain groups of people not be able to go? Now everyone can go and enjoy themselves.

then impose a ban on clubs that play music.  it's unhealthy to my ear drums and it bothers me.  dummy.

That's what clubs are for. To play music. Why would you even go to a club if the music hurts your ears? Bars are for going and getting drinks. Smoking is not what it is about. People do smoke in bars, but smoking isn't what the bar is made for.