Dead in 2005

Started by Diomedes, January 08, 2005, 03:42:26 AM

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MadMarchHare

Are you kidding?  Of course Hillary will be the candidate in '08.  She'll get more women and blacks to vote.  That'll be enough for the Dems to throw her out there.  As for the Repubs, ye gods, the names thrown around so far (Lott, Frist) scare the shtein out of me.  A Hillary/Frist choice might make me brush up on my German.....
Anyone but Reid.

PhillyGirl

"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Geowhizzer

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Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 04, 2005, 08:53:30 PM
Are you kidding?  Of course Hillary will be the candidate in '08.  She'll get more women and blacks to vote.  That'll be enough for the Dems to throw her out there.  As for the Repubs, ye gods, the names thrown around so far (Lott, Frist) scare the shtein out of me.  A Hillary/Frist choice might make me brush up on my German.....

Hillary definitely has some strengths as a candidate, but I believe that her weaknesses far outweigh her strengths.  Even with her moderate record in the Senate, she is seen by many as a polarizing figure even beyond what Bush has been as President.

That said, I have little doubt that she could win the nomination.  I don't believe that she would win the general election unless the GOP nominates an extremely weak candidate.

Earlier this summer I was wondering about a Hillary/Condoleezza race, which would be interesting.  However, I don't believe that Rice would get the nomination, not at this point.  You're probably right in that Frist may be the favorite in 2005, along with Rudy G.  I also wonder if Colin Powell may have a go when the time comes.

This much is certain:  Both the Democratic and Republican fields should be truly wide open for the first time since at least 1980.  It will be interesting to see what happens in the '08 primaries.

MadMarchHare

Now a Hillary-Guiliani campaign would be interesting, in for no other reason that it almost happened in NY.
Frist may have screwed himself out of contention with his stem cell support, though, at least with the extremists within his party.

I can't see the Repubs nominating a black woman.  Just too many fundamentalists with old school mentalities to see that happening.
Anyone but Reid.

Geowhizzer

Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 04, 2005, 10:16:36 PM
Now a Hillary-Guiliani campaign would be interesting, in for no other reason that it almost happened in NY.
Frist may have screwed himself out of contention with his stem cell support, though, at least with the extremists within his party.

I can't see the Repubs nominating a black woman.  Just too many fundamentalists with old school mentalities to see that happening.

Remember, Frist has also come out in support of stem cell research.  Not sure that the GOP is as unified on that as Bush would like to believe.

Not sure Rice even has the credentials at this point to make a serious run, and the GOP may try to ease away from the Bush legacy.  I think that there's a good chance that their ultimate nominee is someone with little or no ties to Bush.

Diomedes

Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 04, 2005, 10:16:36 PM
I can't see the Repubs nominating a black woman. Just too many fundamentalists with old school mentalities to see that happening.

What a chaitable way of saying it.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MadMarchHare

I'm working on my tact. ;D
Anyone but Reid.

Butchers Bill

ABC news is reporting Gilligan (Bob Denver) is dead.  No link yet.
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

Zanshin


Zanshin


Rome

Condi Rice ended any chance of ever being nominated after her shopping spree last week.

Boo hoo.


MadMarchHare

Is he the last of the Gilligan's Island cast to go?
Anyone but Reid.

Zanshin

Ginger and Maryanne are still kicking, aren't they?

MadMarchHare

Apparently, so is the Professor (according to IMDB).
Anyone but Reid.

Zanshin

Apparently, Tina Louise (Ginger) is about to join a soap opera and Dawn Wells (Mary Ann) operates a clothing business...so they're both still kicking.  And I think the Professor is around, too.