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Started by PhillyPhreak54, December 31, 2014, 02:22:25 PM

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ice grillin you

actually if you wanna be truthful the Oregon program was really built by phil knight...but either way it happened well before chip kelly ever got there
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Are you drunk?

Kelly's players, the ones he selected as the head of the Oregon program, the ones he largely recruited to play for Oregon, beat the shtein out of the defending national champions the other night.

Do you understand this?  I'll use pictures instead of words since you still seem confused:

This is Chip when he coached at Oregon:



This is Chip Kelly leading his players onto the field while he was the coach at Oregon:


PhillyPhreak54

Yeah I'm not getting the igy logic on this one

You credit Bellotti and Phil Knight but not Chip??

AshishPatel81

I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

ice grillin you

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
Yeah I'm not getting the igy logic on this one

You credit Bellotti and Phil Knight but not Chip??

youre not getting it cause chip is a god to you or you don't know oregons history

the current team has chips mark on it for sure....romey said that chip built the program...oregon was good long before chip got there....a program is built over years sometimes decades

im pretty sure romey thought oregon was washington state before chip got there
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2015, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
Yeah I'm not getting the igy logic on this one

You credit Bellotti and Phil Knight but not Chip??

youre not getting it cause chip is a god to you or you don't know oregons history

the current team has chips mark on it for sure....romey said that chip built the program...oregon was good long before chip got there....a program is built over years sometimes decades

im pretty sure romey thought oregon was washington state before chip got there

I certainly don't find Chip without faults but you're seemingly trying to paint him as a guy who'll make poor decisions because of his desire to focus on his culture and philosophy to build a squad. Not everything he does in the future will be awful.

He seems like a pretty smart dude so maybe he's learned from releasing a playmaker like DeSean or signing Riley Cooper when he gave him nothing of value?

AshishPatel81

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

I hope Chip has it in him to go out and put some $ into the secondary. What else to save cap room for than to fix this secondary? Yes, I know they'll have to retain their own, but I'm not saying spend every dime of the cap room in free agency. It's not like Aaron Rodgers is going to hit free agency in a year and they are saving 20 million in space for him. They need a legit secondary badly, and won't go anywhere until they fix it.

ice grillin you

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:12:22 PM
I certainly don't find Chip without faults but you're seemingly trying to paint him as a guy who will make poor decisions because of his desire to focus on his culture and philosophy to build a squad.

hes already done that....im hoping he changes

no one should have the amount of responsibilities chip has right now much less someone with as little experience and success as hes had

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

I hope Chip has it in him to go out and put some $ into the secondary. What else to save cap room for than to fix this secondary? Yes, I know they'll have to retain their own, but I'm not saying spend every dime of the cap room in free agency. It's not like Aaron Rodgers is going to hit free agency in a year and they are saving 20 million in space. They need a legit secondary badly, and won't go anywhere until they fix it.

++ corners dont hit free agency....you can try and get lucky and scoop up a antonio cromartie because hes supposedly a bad locker room guy (culture killer) but that position rarely ever hits the market....you gotta draft properly to get a great corner
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

AshishPatel81

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

I hope Chip has it in him to go out and put some $ into the secondary. What else to save cap room for than to fix this secondary? Yes, I know they'll have to retain their own, but I'm not saying spend every dime of the cap room in free agency. It's not like Aaron Rodgers is going to hit free agency in a year and they are saving 20 million in space. They need a legit secondary badly, and won't go anywhere until they fix it.

++ corners dont hit free agency....you can try and get lucky and scoop up a antonio cromartie because hes supposedly a bad locker room guy (culture killer) but that position rarely ever hits the market....you gotta draft properly to get a great corner

A lot of people are hyped on Byron Maxwell. I'd be lying if I said I knew how good he is. I watch Seattle play, but I don't know how to judge a guy like that playing in a secondary that ridiculously good. How would he fare if he came to the Eagles and became "the guy"

PhillyPhreak54

Maxwell is pretty good. I want them to get him

I'd even like to see them take a swing at getting Revis. Spend the money and lock down half the field

JackStraw

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

Yep - don't know if he's wired to do it, but a good move would be magnanimous in victory, going out of his way too include FO in his initial moves. He can afford it, Lurie will appreciate it and puts the onus somewhat on the promoted guy to play ball. Kelly should engineer the optics to be a "team" pick of some independent thought. The thing is his choice A, B, or C isn't that crucial - we know who's calling the shots - but moreover its his first move which will media-scrutinized to death whether its healing or picking the scab.
Endless regression to the mean

ice grillin you

i like maxwell but havent seen nearly enough to know if hes a starting number one corner....I know hes played slot and outside and chip loves that shtein....but if hes that good seattle will keep him
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

Quote from: JackStraw on January 03, 2015, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 03, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: AshishPatel81 on January 03, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
I hope whomever Chip Kelly hires as his executive for personnel, he isn't just a yes man. I hope Chip is cool with him disagreeing on certain moves. As long as you don't have conniving backstabbers breathing down your neck, disagreements can be healthy in a front office. Provides varied opinions to get a quality consensus.

It may not matter if Chip won't move off of his stances, but it's still better than having just yes men around.

We will never really know one way or the other...the perception is there that it's going to be a yes man. And I agree with you that differing opinions can be healthy

Yep - don't know if he's wired to do it, but a good move would be magnanimous in victory, going out of his way too include FO in his initial moves. He can afford it, Lurie will appreciate it and puts the onus somewhat on the promoted guy to play ball. Kelly should engineer the optics to be a "team" pick of some independent thought. The thing is his choice A, B, or C isn't that crucial - we know who's calling the shots - but moreover its his first move which will media-scrutinized to death whether its healing or picking the scab.

the hire is irrelevant if chip doesn't come off his philosophy...shtein he can even hire someone who is allowed to choose what player gets picked...but if that person is regulated to choosing from a pool of players who fit perfectly to chips wants then it doesn't matter
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous