Post Game Musings

Started by ice grillin you, December 20, 2014, 08:02:42 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Eagles_Legendz

I find it hard to be mad.  I wasn't mad at all watching.  Their season ended last week (really, two weeks ago).  I was revved up for the Seahawks game but when they got beaten to the extent that they did, which guaranteed no bye basically, any dream of going anywhere in the playoffs ended, so I just didn't have the same enthusiasm against Dallas, and certainly not yesterday.

That being said, the holes on this team are obvious.   The front 3 is good - Logan and Thornton are fine.  Cox has become the best player on the team the second half of the year.   Kendricks and Barwin can be starters on a good defense.  The other two LB slots need to be addressed.  Cole still has flashes but he gets beaten too often, and you can't count on Ryans being back next year.  Curry and Graham are fine as 3rd down rushers but you need at least one other legitimate LB. 

The secondary is gross.  Boykin has gotten beat far more this year than last, Allen is below average, and Williams/Fletcher are beyond terrible as a starting CB tandem.  Cary can have good games if refs are allowing more contact, but he really isn't a starting corner and Fletcher is even worse.   Part of it is scheme though because how often are you going to leave a slow corner who can't track the ball 1on1 on the outside against Bryant and Jackson?  Cary can't run with Jackson either but at least he would usually make sure he didn't get off the line cleanly every play.  Jenkins is fine but that's now twice in 3 weeks he's dropped big pick6 opportunities.   Certainly no need to replace him and I am fine with Boykin still but they need 3 new starters in the secondary.

The offense is a mess.  Play calling has become increasingly vanilla (I attribute some of this to Kelly seeing limitations in his QB, but you need to innovate at that point to make them successful and I haven't seen that).

The OLine is still pretty good but Mathis/Herramens/Peters aren't getting younger.  You need an OLineman drafted in the first 3 rounds if only so Andrew Gardner isn't the first player in when someone gets hurt.  The depth is awful and you need someone ready for when some of these guys inevitably start to decline more.

QB play has been a joke this year.  You can't win with their turnovers.  Period.  Sanchez is playing like a worse version of Chad Pennington.  Even against Washington you can see the limitations when teams don't even need to cover more than 10 yards downfield.   He is competent enough to be a perfectly fine backup but you're in trouble if he plays more than a game or two.  Foles was a different kind of bad.  Just seemed rattled all year.  At least he was willing to throw downfield.  You lose the utility of someone like Sproles when you make him your first or second read instead of your last which Foles understood better.  Still, Foles isn't the future either.  I expect him to be the starter next year though.

McCoy wasn't as good this year but the running backs are fine.  TEs are fine too.  Ertz was underutilized this season but he's never going to be a game breaking TE.  He should catch 65 passes but he's obviously never going to become a Gronkowski or Graham or Gates.  Wide receivers need to be upgraded.  [insert igy comment].  Maclin has been good all year.   His production has taken a hit with Sanchez because Sanchez won't throw the ball more than 8 yards.  Cooper needs to go.  I didn't see anything encouraging from Huff.  Matthews is fine as a slot WR though he drops too many passes.  So they need someone opposite of Maclin who is a substantial upgrade over what they have. 

QB/WR/OLine depth/LB/CB/S and maybe new D coordinator.  Simple.  :boo

Munson

Is the FA pool for WR ridiculously deep or is the website i'm looking at just not updated?

Really wouldn't mind a Maclin/Cobb combo next year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

Actually really wouldn't mind that at all....GB may let him go if they like Adams enough. Little bit smaller than Maclin, but they're similar guys. Good route runners, can go over the middle, but also fast enough to get downfield. I'll take that combo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

QB Eagles

So you're saying the youngest UFA WR who also caught for 1000+ yards this year would be an upgrade over Riley Cooper?

Sgt PSN

Barely, but yeah...I think he would be   

Munson

Quote from: QB Eagles on December 21, 2014, 12:17:55 PM
So you're saying the youngest UFA WR who also caught for 1000+ yards this year would be an upgrade over Riley Cooper?

They could sign old as dirt Wes Welker and it would be a huge upgrade. But I was just enjoying the thought of that combo outside.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Tomahawk

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 21, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
So they need someone opposite of Maclin who is a substantial upgrade over what they have. 

QB/WR/OLine depth/LB/CB/S and maybe new D coordinator.  Simple.  :boo

Fortunately the bar is so low, finding a substantial upgrade opposite of Maclin shouldn't be difficult.

Admittedly I don't watch enough college football but what about drafting Cody Fajardo in the 4th or even the 3rd? He seems like he has the skill set for Chip's offense.

SD

Quote from: Munson on December 21, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
Is the FA pool for WR ridiculously deep or is the website i'm looking at just not updated?

Really wouldn't mind a Maclin/Cobb combo next year.

That sounds great no way it's happening. They'll probably re-sign MacLin and call it a day at the wr spot. They used a 2nd and 3rd on a wr last year. Cobb is s fine compliment in the slot with a big time wr and qb. Chip likes bigger Wrs too

ice grillin you

yup.....not only does chip want big and long they dont need a small slot guy....they need a big studly X wide out

in fact I think mack would be the ultimate slot guy....my dream would be to get two legit split ends one of which can stretch the field put mack in the slot have have Mathews as your 4th wr

not gonna happen but one can dream
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Munson

Quote from: SD on December 21, 2014, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: Munson on December 21, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
Is the FA pool for WR ridiculously deep or is the website i'm looking at just not updated?

Really wouldn't mind a Maclin/Cobb combo next year.

That sounds great no way it's happening. They'll probably re-sign MacLin and call it a day at the wr spot. They used a 2nd and 3rd on a wr last year. Cobb is s fine compliment in the slot with a big time wr and qb. Chip likes bigger Wrs too

True on the big guys, but Chip could always be fwapping to Matthews for all we know as his "big guy".

Sadly, you're probably right on them re-signing Maclin and rolling with Cooper/Matthews again.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds