Marcus Mariota Watch

ice grillin you · November 25, 2014, 07:23:28 PM

20/20 vision makes every move negative

Eagles_Legendz · November 25, 2014, 07:44:55 PM

The Watkins deal was bad because the Bills weren't close to seriously competing and giving up another first to get a WR in what was known to be an elite WR draft seemed short sighted. I think Watkins is great but that was a really steep price to pay. It just seemed like a move to put a team over the top, not one to hopefully get you competitive.

SD · November 25, 2014, 07:51:59 PM

You don't give up that much for a WR I don't care who it is. Look at the last 10 teams to win a Superbowl, did any of them have a WR you'd consider top 5 in the league...even top 10? A QB is a different story because they can turn an average WR into a top flight guy. Just look at what Brady's done with Edelman and Lafell...or Peyton's done with Emmanuel Sanders who was pedestrian last year. You give that much up for an Andrew Luck, not for a Julio Jones.

ice grillin you · November 25, 2014, 08:02:57 PM

I would give up two ones right now for the birds to have a great WR

SD · November 25, 2014, 08:14:57 PM

And that's why you're not a gm

Eagles_Legendz · November 25, 2014, 08:15:24 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 08:02:57 PM
I would give up two ones right now for the birds to have a great WR

I wouldn't but I would for a QB.

The Eagles WRs are good enough to win a Super Bowl (probably - as SD said, New England has the best offense in the NFL and they start Edelman and LaFell, neither of whom are nearly as good as Maclin).

The Eagles QBs are not. So I'd trade two firsts (maybe more) for a QB though.

ice grillin you · November 25, 2014, 08:18:42 PM

you wouldnt trade marcus smith and lane johnson for calvin johnson?

Eagles_Legendz · November 25, 2014, 08:22:08 PM

That's not really a fair question because Marcus Smith looks like an all-time bad 1st round pick right now.

If the question is whether I'd trade Lane Johnson and Fletcher Cox for CJ right now, the answer is probably not, no.

The bigger point as I think you've said multiple times this year, the Eagles need more pieces before they're seriously threatening to win the SB. Does someone like Julio Jones put them over the top? I doubt it. It would make the offense better obviously but I think the Eagles with a top 5 QB are a legit threat to win the SB right now. I don't know that that's true if you put a top 5 WR on the team.

SD · November 25, 2014, 08:22:41 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 25, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
you wouldnt trade marcus smith and lane johnson for calvin johnson?

I would trade Danny Watkins Brandon Graham Nate Allen and Jaqwan Jarrett for Golden Tate

ice grillin you · November 25, 2014, 08:24:56 PM

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on November 25, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
That's not really a fair question because Marcus Smith looks like an all-time bad 1st round pick right now.

If the question is whether I'd trade Lane Johnson and Fletcher Cox for CJ right now, the answer is probably not, no.

The bigger point as I think you've said multiple times this year, the Eagles need more pieces before they're seriously threatening to win the SB. Does someone like Julio Jones put them over the top? I doubt it. It would make the offense better obviously but I think the Eagles with a top 5 QB are a legit threat to win the SB right now. I don't know that that's true if you put a top 5 WR on the team.

lane johnson is amazingly vanilla and super replaceable...and i like fletcher cox but his impact on the team isn't even close to what pimp did for them last year.....chip is an offensive guy....load the farg up on that side of the ball....a top notch number 1 wr would be so good right now

Eagles_Legendz · November 25, 2014, 08:27:19 PM

I think the OLine for this team is critical and I haven't noticed Lane giving up pressure since he's gotten in.

Not arguing that a top flight WR would be nice, but Cox is one of the better 3-4 DEs in football, and Johnson is a young, talented, and producing tackle right now.

I'd just try to save as many assets as possible to go after a QB. RG3 should be available this offseason, making all your dreams come true.

PhillyPhreak54 · November 25, 2014, 08:28:20 PM

I wouldn't call Johnson easily replaceable.

After seeing how badly teams struggle with finding solid OTs I'm happy they took him. I wasn't for the vanilla pick at the time but am thankful now they took him.

He doesn't get whipped often and is better than Fisher. Bet KC would take Lane on a re-draft

ice grillin you · November 25, 2014, 08:33:07 PM

hes fine...but he is easily replaceable...in fact he was for the first month of the season

PhillyPhreak54 · November 25, 2014, 08:34:21 PM

I wojkdng say easily...the turnstiles they had out there were rough to watch

Eagles_Legendz · November 25, 2014, 08:34:29 PM

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 25, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
I wouldn't call Johnson easily replaceable.

After seeing how badly teams struggle with finding solid OTs I'm happy they took him. I wasn't for the vanilla pick at the time but am thankful now they took him.

He doesn't get whipped often and is better than Fisher. Bet KC would take Lane on a re-draft

Fisher and Joeckel have both been pretty bad.