2014 Arrested NFL People

[Sgt PSN]

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Awesome.

Also, Sunny is on point. You don't punish someone and then implement a harsher punishment because the video gets out and makes people uncomfortable.  The league is punishing a player to make up for their own farg up. 

After the public backlash,  Rog implements the 6 game/lifetime ban but he still kept Rice @ 2 games because he already punished him. What has changed?  Nothing.

Once you hand out a punishment,  that's it. It's done.  If this indefinite suspension isn't challenged and reversed, it sets a horrible precident.

[ice grillin you]

doing what is right is way more important than some silly non existent precedent that would be set

you are insane if you actually think ray rice should be reinstated tomorrow because goodell farged up with the original punishment

[MDS]

this isnt the court of law...its a business. the nfl suspension actually means nothing. baltimore terminated rice's contract. no team is touching him until the offseason, if then.

why is this even a debate?

[ice grillin you]

its amazing to me that there are people who actually think he should be reinstated tomorrow because he was unfairly disciplined

[MDS]

more important than the pr nightmare...more important than rice coldcocking his wife....more important than anything is the fact that ray rice is technically getting disciplined twice for the same crime.

its amoral! its unconstitutional! its WRONG!

[PhillyPhreak54]

Without a doubt he would not have been suspended indefinitely nor cut from Baltimore had that second part of the video been released.

The NFL righted their wrong because they were caught trying to cover that shtein up.

The Ravens righted their wrong because of the release of the video - they too were trying to cover it up and not release or discipline a good player because of football reasons. They reek of empty statements and actions because they should have suspended him immediately once they found out. But no, they protected him. They promoted him.

The fact remains that the video was shown and it visualized to everyone what he really did and the fact is that he deserves the harsh punishments that have come his way.

I hate to go the "regular Joe" angle here...but in this case it applies (unlike when people try to liken contract disputes to their jobs)...if any normal citizen would have been videotaped beating their girlfriend/wife/whoever unconscious they would have been in jail immediately and no bullshtein pretrial intervention or plea deal would have been struck. The full weight of the law would have been levied upon them. So in that regard Rice still gets off easy because he isn't locked the farg up.

[Sgt PSN]

Truth be told, I dont think he should have been suspended at all. But that's because I completely disagree with employers punishing people for personal actions or decisions away from the workplace.

Deck a cheerleader during the game, suspended. Cold cock your girl in AC, suit up.

But I know that's not the world we live in. So whatevs.

[SD]

Truth be told, I dont think he should have been suspended at all. But that's because I completely disagree with employers punishing people for personal actions or decisions away from the workplace.

Deck a cheerleader during the game, suspended. Cold cock your girl in AC, suit up.

But I know that's not the world we live in. So whatevs.

I agree with this 100%

[MDS]

so if you are running the ravens, you play ray rice in this game right now

[ice grillin you]

probably should find another line of work then...all nfl contracts come with a conduct clause that the union agreed to...when sponsors and fans are paying your salary you are held to a higher standard....he can go work for ibm and beat all the women he wants

[rjs246]

Once again people are arguing procedural bullshtein. Why are some people compelled to defend a person's actions based on technicalities?

Look I'm completely sympathetic to the separation of work and life. I have a set of values that don't necessarily line up with the society at large, so I get the argument. But some shtein is just farging wrong. And if I am the face of my company, a household name for millions of people, and my video taped behavior directly impacts the public opinion of my company, I expect to get fired if I am caught on tape punching my hot fiancée in the farging face.

So argue with that, douches.

[Sgt PSN]

Once again people are arguing procedural bullshtein. Why are some people compelled to defend a person's actions based on technicalities? 

It's not a defence of Ray Rice's actions in the least, but rather a condemnation of the way the league handled the entire thing. The league saw the video and decided on 2 games. The only reason the punishment changed is because the video went public, but its not like she was any less unconscious before the video got out.

Look I'm completely sympathetic to the separation of work and life. I have a set of values that don't necessarily line up with the society at large, so I get the argument. But some shtein is just farging wrong. And if I am the face of my company, a household name for millions of people, and my video taped behavior directly impacts the public opinion of my company, I expect to get fired if I am caught on tape punching my hot fiancée in the farging face.

So argue with that, douches.

Companies don't have faces. People have faces. Companies are not people, right? This whole "you represent your employer" shtick is some shtein made up buy crusty old white dudes as a means of controlling their employees around the clock.

Oh,  you want a paycheck next week?  Do your job from 9-5 and then don't do anything to embarrass me between 5-9 that might cut into my profits. 

Farg that. I'm honestly surprised that Rusty of all people buys into that bull.

[rjs246]

I don't buy into shtein. My point was simply that actions have consequences and that the nature of those consequences exist on a sliding scale. For better or worse when ten million fantasy football nerds know who Ray Rice is, part of the job description is not cold cocking your fiancée. Whether you're on the clock or not.

Actually thats only part of my point. The other part is, farg anyone that cold cocks their fiancée. And consider me completely unmoved by appeals to the separation between work and play when play involves decking your girl til she sleep.

[MDS]

It's not a defence of Ray Rice's actions in the least, but rather a condemnation of the way the league handled the entire thing. The league saw the video and decided on 2 games. The only reason the punishment changed is because the video went public, but its not like she was any less unconscious before the video got out.

he was terminated before the league even did anything extra. the "suspended indefinitely" was a PR move that is utterly meaningless. he will not serve 1 game of a real suspension if someone decides to sign him next season. nobody was/is touching now him anyway.

why dont you understand this. there is a video of him punching his wife in the face. he was fired. this is justifiable and correct.

[ice grillin you]

this is crazy....and pathetic

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