Game of Thrones

[smeags]

well call it a letdown or whatever i just didnt think it was up to par. which still means it was better t.v. than 99% of anything currently on.

[Susquehanna Birder]

I fell asleep, didn't see maybe the middle third, and I don't think I missed much.

[Eagaholic]

You missed a lot of people running around yelling and hacking at each other.

To me it was the worst episode of s4 which I think had a shot to be the best one yet. Befuddled and wide eyed Janos Slint running around was maybe the worst acting I've seen on the show. Didn't like that they killed off Pip and Grenn though. At least Edd lived, he's one of my favorite minor characters.

There were a couple of cool moments. When Styr bashed John's face on an anvil it was pretty unrealistic he only got a little bit of a bloody mouth. But it was clever how John saved his life by spitting said blood back in Styr's face to throw him off guard enough for John to bury the hatchet in his head. A direct reference imo back to Karl of Gin Alley (Gin Lane in the old English reference - also where Davos and Gendry were from), and how he spat in John's face to gain the advantage, almost killing him because John fought 'too honorably'. A lesson Bronn also taught, smacking Jamie down with his own gold hand.

Also liked scene with the giant charging the gate. Given how the wall was also built with spells, the Night's Watch guys doing their ancient vows and created a good moment of suspense, like could this actually work? But there was also slightly humorous element, like some mystical blue collar incantation. Liked the older and more primate style of giants from earlier shows, guess the humanoid ones seemed a more likely fit, with needing the intelligence to open the gate but became a bit Harry Potterish.

Btw Sus, you have a nice glass. (Glencairn?)

[Munson]

I thought Grenn just started with the vows to give the scared bitch brother courage, basically trying to fire him/the rest of them up.

It was definitely the "worst" episode of the season, but it was still pretty damn good IMO. The ending was weak, and as rusty pointed out, the show is much better at intrigue than at 'mindless' action.

[Eagaholic]

Agree with Grenn. It was just the effect it seemed to evolve into. And like Smeags said, even subpar GOT is still better than most of the crap on teevee, but still a mediocre showing all in all imo.

[Munson]

I thought the battle itself was actually great, but the 15-20 minutes leading up to it were pretty weak. Didn't really think the discussion between Sam/Aemon was all that interesting, nor Jon and Sam talking about Ygritte. When the Blackwater episode happened, at least you had Tyrion being Tyrion and Joffery being a funhole before the battle.

[Eagles_Legendz]

I don't think it was the worst episode of the season (I'd probably put it above 3/4/5), just a missed opportunity in some regards.

From EW quoting Benioff & Weiss about episode 10:

"It's the best finale we've ever done, bar none," Thrones showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss said in a statement. "The performances from our cast, the direction from Alex Graves, the VFX work, the new [music] cues from Ramin Djawadi—all of it came together in perhaps the finest hour we've produced. We're immensely proud of 'The Children.' And a little intimidated by the episode, because now we have to get back to the business of season five and figure out a way to top it."

[Susquehanna Birder]

Btw Sus, you have a nice glass. (Glencairn?)

Yep. One of several in my collection. It was really difficult to find one, then they started showing up everywhere.

Back to GoT...the episode reminded me of the Matthew Broderick version of Godzilla. People screaming, running, seeing monsters, screaming, changing directions, and running. Repeat ad nauseum.

I'm sure it was a very difficult episode to create, between actor fatigue and the choreography between the actors and the cameras. But it was just tedious to the viewer after a while.

[rjs246]

Alliser: "I'm needed elsewhere to farg some shtein up. Slynt, the wall is yours." (Commences farging shtein up.)
Janos: "I'm terrified and have been summoned elsewhere. Snow, the wall is yours." (Hides.)
Jon: "Yes, I also need to go fight somewhere else. Edd, the wall is yours." (Commences farging shtein up.)
Edd: "Whatever, let's farg shtein up." (Commences farging shtein up.)

If the episode had been 30 minutes longer I'm sure that Edd would have passed the wall off to Sam and Sam would have passed it off to Gilly and Gilly would have passed it off to Mini-Sam.

[hbionic]

Edd did issue the best command though by unleashing the wall anchor-axe. That was bitchin!

[smeags]

that was pretty badass.

[Eagaholic]

Btw Sus, you have a nice glass. (Glencairn?)

Yep. One of several in my collection. It was really difficult to find one, then they started showing up everywhere.

Back to GoT...the episode reminded me of the Matthew Broderick version of Godzilla. People screaming, running, seeing monsters, screaming, changing directions, and running. Repeat ad nauseum.

I'm sure it was a very difficult episode to create, between actor fatigue and the choreography between the actors and the cameras. But it was just tedious to the viewer after a while.

Yeah, had been meaning to get some of those glasses on line for a while but then they showed up at Total Wine. After the episode we compared Macallan 18 with Balvenie 21 y/o port cask in them. For the ladies I made up some Johnny Walker black label with Godiva white chocolate (White Walkers bitches!! - but it has to be served on ice). Believe it or not, JW Black in regular Godiva chocolate liqueur is actual pretty good if you like those kinds of drinks. Anyway, you have a good sigil.

If the episode had been 30 minutes longer I'm sure that Edd would have passed the wall off to Sam and Sam would have passed it off to Gilly and Gilly would have passed it off to Mini-Sam.

Hey, thanks for spoiling next week

[phattymatty]

i really wanted that Gilly character to just look at the bald dude that ran into her chamber and say "sorry".

and who is mance? i know he's their leader or whatever but has he been on the show yet? other than just by name?

[Munson]

i really wanted that Gilly character to just look at the bald dude that ran into her chamber and say "sorry".

and who is mance? i know he's their leader or whatever but has he been on the show yet? other than just by name?

Jon met him in S3Ep1 when he was taken to their tent. He knelt down in front of Tormund Giantsbane (the crazy bearded dude) and they all laughed at him and then Mance came over and said "i'm the king" and all that. The last time we saw Mance Rayder was also in Season 3, he was walking towards the camera saying "I'm gonna light the biggest fire the North has ever seen"

[Seabiscuit36]

He's played by the same guy who was Julius Caesar from hbo's ROME.