Around The NFL - 2014

Eagaholic · February 28, 2014, 03:46:26 PM

Another wow, if true.

QuoteDolphins floating Dion Jordan in trade talks
Posted by Darin Gantt on February 28, 2014, 2:21 PM EST
Dion Jordan AP

Ordinarily you'd say this was big news.

But given the recent events in Miami, giving up on a first-round pick a year into the process almost doesn't register.

According to Jason LaCanfora of CBSSports.com, the Dolphins are "gauging trade value" for 2013 first-round pick Dion Jordan.

As in, third overall pick Dion Jordan.

As in, the guy they gave up last year's 12th and 42nd overall picks to take third overall, instead of using any of that ammunition to go get a left tackle such as Branden Albert, or some other part the coaching staff had a use for.

Speculation will immediately turn to Philadelphia, since Eagles Chip Kelly used Jordan to such great impact at Oregon.

BigEd76 · February 28, 2014, 04:33:10 PM

It'd be a $17M cap hit if they dealt him. Can't see that happening

BigEd76 · February 28, 2014, 05:08:54 PM

Jimmy Graham, Greg Hardy and Nick Folk were franchised, and Hauschka will probably get a tag from Seattle

Rome · February 28, 2014, 05:09:49 PM

He's an icehole. The only cure for that is death.

Sorry... That was re Incognito.

Eagaholic · February 28, 2014, 05:56:15 PM

Quote from: BigEd76 on February 28, 2014, 04:33:10 PM
It'd be a $17M cap hit if they dealt him. Can't see that happening

I does sound unlikely, even if it is Miami. I think they have a lot of cap room though. One possibility would be a trade. Both teams eat cap hits, but it would probably also need for the players to be on board. Not sure who the Eagles could offer up though. Since it's Miami, maybe they could say Barkley is worth a second rounder and move him.

BigEd76 · February 28, 2014, 06:18:54 PM

Graham, Bryce Brown and a 2nd?

QB Eagles · February 28, 2014, 07:00:55 PM

We talked about it last month if you want to read more uninformed hypothetical Dion Jordan stuff.

Eagaholic · February 28, 2014, 07:12:02 PM

Thx, I didn't remember that discussion. I don't think I'd do Ed's proposed deal unless maybe we could throw in Patrick Chung as well. I would with those players, a 3rd and a conditional pick if Jordan pans out though.

Eagaholic · February 28, 2014, 07:18:29 PM

Quote from: Eagaholic on February 27, 2014, 12:33:56 PM
The NFLs first year of a salary cap was at $34 million. Now 20 years later it is about $100 million more.

It is officially $133 million now, 10 more than last year. The cap had been fairly flatline the last few years - last year was the same as 2009 - but good size jumps are expected to continue. I'd take that to mean we'll probably be seeing fewer quality FAs than we'd hoped for hitting the market.

BigEd76 · March 01, 2014, 11:30:09 AM

Quote from: Eagaholic on February 28, 2014, 07:12:02 PMI don't think I'd do Ed's proposed deal unless maybe we could throw in Patrick Chung as well.

How about Greg Lewis and a 5th?

If Miami is offering him around to all 31 teams (and they're denying it to the media but why would they admit it?), there's no need to give up #22. (yes igs...I know Graham and Brown suck and nobody wants them. I wasn't serious.)

SD · March 01, 2014, 11:37:09 AM

I'd go as high as a 2nd because I like his potential but no way Miami is eating $17 million

Eagaholic · March 01, 2014, 12:59:17 PM

Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 28, 2014, 07:12:02 PMI don't think I'd do Ed's proposed deal unless maybe we could throw in Patrick Chung as well.

How about Greg Lewis and a 5th?

Greg Lewis caught a TD in a Super Bowl. That's a once a century feat, no way I give that up.

BigEd76 · March 01, 2014, 01:23:03 PM

Reading some more about it, it's only $10M or so for a Miami cap hit if he's traded and the Eagles would absorb some of the difference

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-financial-considerations-trading-dion-jordan/

Eagaholic · March 01, 2014, 01:49:12 PM

Interesting, it could be feasible. The $10M hit for Mia would be for pre- June 1, but iirc a team can designate a players as a post June 1 transaction before that date. But I'm not sure if that is for cuts only or also includes trades, or if there is a condition that this doesn't pertain to players on rookie contracts. If Mia were able to designate Jordan as a post 6/1 trade it drops their hit to very doable $3.3 million, especially since they have around $40M in cap room.

Eagaholic · March 02, 2014, 01:05:01 PM

for the Byrds

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WGR 550 Buffalo reports the Bills are unlikely to re-sign or use the franchise tag on free agent FS Jairus Byrd.
"The two sides have had productive discussions, and while things could change, it seems at this point that the two sides will split," writes Jeremy White. White's colleague, Joe Buscaglia, is arguably the top Bills beat reporter and adds that the Bills "explored all their options, including a trade." GM Doug Whaley shot a "substantial offer" Byrd's way, but the 27-year-old seems intent on testing the market.

bonerz
Imagine landing Byrd and drafting Pryor @22

Seems there's a decent chance Orakpo hits the market, too.

Red Bryant is free and Paul Soliai expected to be released, I'd like to see the Eagles check out one of those two as well.