Around The NFL - 2014

[Eagaholic]

In his day he wasn't overrated because he was on prime time so much. Madden would regularly slob his knob over his agility and how he was so great at  'changing direction' (almost as bad as how Brett Favre was "like a kid out there" having fun).

No doubt he was a very good talent but also a classic example of someone who should be in the hall of very good, not the HOF. IGY's right that his reputation is in part due to his exposure from being in the right place at the right time (I think he has at least 4, maybe 5 rings) and that's what is giving him the edge over other equally or more deserving players.

[Rome]

Like it or not Defensive Ends are judged by sack totals.  The only reason Haley's even in the conversation is because of the great teams he played on.  Hell, Clyde Simmons had 20 more sacks than Haley.   He's not Hall-worthy either.  Loved him as an Eagle, but come on.

[SD]

Adam Schefter
Congratulations HOF Class of 2014: Aeneas Williams, Michael Strahan, Derrick Brooks, Walter Jones, Andre Reed, Ray Guy, Claude Humphrey.

[ice grillin you]

other than nfl hof classes being way too big in general thats a good group other than andre reed who has no business

[MDS]

im pretty sure jeremy maclin is better than andre reed

[SunMo]

roob was WIP Saturday night and saying that Eric Allen is just as good if not better than Aeneas Williams.  He ran off their numbers and they are extremely close.

All in all he said that Seth, Clyde, and Allen should be in HOF

He's obviously a huge homer but he made decent arguements for each guy.  Clyde put up a ton of sacks after he left Reggie and Philadelphia.  Seth is the only player in history to have 40+ sacks and 20+ picks (i think those were the numbers) and Allen should get in if Aeneas Williams is in. 

[Sgt PSN]

The counter argument would be that the Eagles players were surrounded by talent during the prime of their careers while Williams was surrounded by 10 random Cardinals.

[Rome]

Easy E should be a HOF'r.    Seth and Clyde not so much.  Great but not HOF worthy.

[ice grillin you]

i think EA was a better cover corner...what imo puts aneas williams on a level just above EA and in the hall is that he was a better playmaker...one of the better ive ever seen...and thats not to say EA doesnt deserve to be in the hall...i think he does....but EA was more of a technical stright up cover corner where as aneas was more of an athlete which made him flash in ways that EA didnt

as for clyde its pretty disengenious to act like he rolled without reggie...yeah he put up consistent numbers for a long time post reggie but not double digit hof type numbers...his monster years were with reggie...he was just another guy without him

59 is tough...he was so damn good at so many things that he wasnt dominant at anything...no all nfl teams...i dont even think he had more than one or two pro bowls...almost was like a tweener jack of all trades guy...but farg it put him in....its seth

[ice grillin you]

elias put out a great number today

since 1970 there have been more than 10 thousand games played in the nfl and last night was the second time the same team has scored in the first minute of each half

[Dillen]

what imo puts aneas williams on a level just above EA and in the hall is that he was a better playmaker...one of the better ive ever seen...

This. For some reason, I've always remembered/thought that Aeneas had a 4 pick game. I've seriously thought this for 10+ years. I just went through his career game log to confirm and he's never had a game with more than 2. I don't know where the hell that idea came from, but thinking that it's even reasonable for him to have a game like that tells you enough.

[ice grillin you]

nfl's most tortured fanbases......the birds are 5th

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/67390290/buffalo-bills-cleveland-browns-detroit-lions-are-top-three-tortured-fanbases

[Rome]

4 straight SB's without a win = brutal.  It's not worse than what we've gone thru.

It's all subjective, though.

[ice grillin you]

wide right is worse than the top five things the eagles have ever gone thru

[Rome]

Not to you anyway.