Around The NFL - 2014

[ice grillin you]

Random information that should not be grouped into one place:
Just noticing that for all his talk about being the best corner in the league, Richard Sherman was the 4th most heavily penalized player in the NFL in terms of yardage. Lots of PI/d holds.

3 of the 4 Eagles starting LBs had just 1 penalty called against them all year, as did Nate Allen (Barwin had 3).

the best players are the most aggressive which often leads to penalties....nate allen is a vagina richard sherman is a beast...guess who is going to have more penalties

the eagle linebackers by and large are slow Hoydas....not very often getting to a spot to make a play and when they do they move in such a slow and reactive manner that they are getting there most times after the ball... if at all....not suprising that barwin their best lb this year had the most penalties....in theory kendricks should as hes the most aggressive but his path to ball is a lot of times more off course than the costa concordia

[PhillyPhreak54]

Random information that should not be grouped into one place:
Just noticing that for all his talk about being the best corner in the league, Richard Sherman was the 4th most heavily penalized player in the NFL in terms of yardage. Lots of PI/d holds.

3 of the 4 Eagles starting LBs had just 1 penalty called against them all year, as did Nate Allen (Barwin had 3). No ejections this year for the Birds. Was also reading the Trotter pre-game fight/ejection in ATL lead to a rule change declaring before games the areas between the 45 yard lines are also defined as the neutral zone and no player (other than kickers) can cross into the neutral zone. So, Phreak batsignal, there is a Trotter Rule.

[ice grillin you]

yay or nay on this years HOF finalists.....

Morten Andersen
Jerome Bettis
Derrick Brooks
Tim Brown
Edward DeBartolo
Tony Dungy
Kevin Greene
Charles Haley
Marvin Harrison
Walter Jones
John Lynch
Andre Reed
Will Shields
Michael Strahan
Aeneas Williams

[SunMo]

Morten Andersen - no
Jerome Bettis - no
Derrick Brooks - yes
Tim Brown - yes
Edward DeBartolo - yes
Tony Dungy - no
Kevin Greene - no
Charles Haley - yes
Marvin Harrison - yes
Walter Jones - yes
John Lynch - no
Andre Reed - no
Will Shields - yes
Michael Strahan - yes
Aeneas Williams - yes

that's without looking up any numbers, just gut feel

[PhillyPhreak54]

Morten Andersen - no
Jerome Bettis - no
Derrick Brooks - yes
Tim Brown - yes
Edward DeBartolo -yes
Tony Dungy - no
Kevin Greene - no
Charles Haley - yes
Marvin Harrison - yes
Walter Jones - yes
John Lynch - no
Andre Reed - no
Will Shields - yes
Michael Strahan - yes (with Runyan giving his induction speech)
Aeneas Williams - no

No numbers - just gut instincts

[Rome]

Agree with all of those except Strahan.

No reason really.  Just farg him.

[ice grillin you]

Morten Andersen - NO....kicker has to be special to get in...he was more on the side of being really good for a long time...dome guy
Jerome Bettis - NO - has numbers but fails the eye test....also too one dimensional
Derrick Brooks - NO - hes close...wouldnt have a problem with it but if its close i always lean OUT
Tim Brown - NO - HOF return man not HOF wide receiver....and you dont get in for returns
Edward DeBartolo - YES
Tony Dungy - NO - joke
Kevin Greene - NO - eff that aryan brother
Charles Haley - NO - overrated
Marvin Harrison - NO - i understand he basically has to get in with the numbers but he was a product of peyton....HOF route runner tho
Walter Jones - YES - second best OL of his era next to odgen
John Lynch - get the farg out of here
Andre Reed - NO - eh
Will Shields - great but not quite HOF
Michael Strahan - NO/YES - if he agrees to relinquish the single season sack record then he gets in
Aeneas Williams - YES - so underrated...in his era he had to compete with rod woodson deion and EA....pretty sick...such a great playmaker

[Sgt PSN]

I don't get your Harrison and Shields comments.

Harrison was a HOF route runner, but a product of Peyton?  Was Manning catching the balls for him? 

And how can a guy be great but not HOF worthy? 

[ice grillin you]

some players are average but not good....some players are good but not great and some players are great but not HOF

as for harrison im not putting a guy in the HOF for route running....marv was basically andre reed with arguably the best qb of all time and in a offensive era and neither of them pass my HOF eye test even if their stats do

[SD]

Charles Haley was overrated? Don't know if he's HOF worthy but I always thought the guy was really underrated. He used to take games over off the edge. His play gets overshadowed because he played in an era with guys like Reggie and Bruce Smith.

[ice grillin you]

in the prime of his career he had three straight seasons of single digit sacks yet most people would put him in the HOF...he also was famous for taking plays and even games off

that said im not bashing the guy i loved him....he just wasnt a HOF

[ice grillin you]

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[SD]

in the prime of his career he had three straight seasons of single digit sacks yet most people would put him in the HOF...he also was famous for taking plays and even games off

that said im not bashing the guy i loved him....he just wasnt a HOF

Sacks totals can be overrated (see Babin). He's a borderline hofer to me but at no point would I ever call him overrated.

[ice grillin you]

well he was an edge rusher so while i agree sacks can be somewhat misleading he needs more to get in the hall....what puts him on a hof level over two dozen other guys who are as good or better than him is that he was lucky enough to play for sf and dallas during their superbowls....otherwise hes clyde simmons or dexter manley....actually those two were better than haley

that what makes him overrated....people put him on a pedestal he shouldn't be on because he was a 49er and cowboy at the right time

[SD]

I always thought the guy was overshadowed by other players on D and the stars on offense. Never thought he got his due.