2013-14 Phillies Offseason Thread

[QB Eagles]

Even though it's far from what I would have liked, I could understand Amaro trying to hold the thing together with duct tape until they got the Comcast deal. But what's the plan now? Only the deluded could think this team is built to win right now. Seems like they should be bringing in as much young blood as possible and hoping to find some underpriced gems that can become a new core. Marlon Byrd and Bobby Abreu serve what purpose?

[Rome]

They should have blown it up after 2012, not after winning 102 games in 2011.  Seriously, that's not even debatable unless you're just fishing for the sake of it.

[MDS]

i would love for them to do those things....but thats a fire sale and the fans, the media, the sponsors, the OWNERS would not like that one bit. its not happening.

you can go through amaro's mistakes 1000 times over but another significant issue is the complete lack of talent the farm system has produced. basically since utley howard hamels came up theyve produced gio gonzalez and jared cosart. thats it. everyone else stinks. thats amazing.

meanwhile the cardinals and red sox crank out talent like its nothing and the phiilies are so weak at catcher they have to give a washed up roidhead 3 years.

[ice grillin you]

its not about bloiwing up anything or making six trades the day after the 2011 season ended

in august 2012 they were done and at the trade deadline all they did was trade hunter pence because he was coming up to be arbitration eligible and they didnt wanna pay him....they should have done a lot more

this is about about moving valuable pieces to secure a potential future.....theres absolutely no reason cliff lee should be on this team right now

[Don Ho]

sarge is right.....the team should have won another title or even two if you wanna get greedy....and that would have changed everything...right now i would be slighly perturbed with the lack of a rebuild....without that second title im instead blood boilingly angry

2009-2011 is all on the players

after that its all on that moron gm

They win 2009 against the Yankees and go bact to back these bums get a pass for eternity, ok maybe 20 years.  They win 08 and 11 that works out pretty damn good too, a nice 4 year run.  shtein, now I'm just getting pissed thinking about this.

[Chameleon]

The Phillies had zero chance of beating the Yankees in 2009 with Charlie in the dugout. That team was built to lose in the World Series.

[BigEd76]

The Yanks were the only team over 100 wins that year, but the Phils could've stolen that series

-- They had a 1-0 lead in game 2 before getting shut down
-- They had a 3-0 lead at home in game 3 before Cole went to shtein
-- They were tied 4-4 with 2 outs nobody on in the 9th of game 4 before Lidge went to shtein

[Chameleon]

The Yanks were the only team over 100 wins that year, but the Phils could've stolen that series

-- They had a 1-0 lead in game 2 before getting shut down
-- They had a 3-0 lead at home in game 3 before Cole went to shtein
-- They were tied 4-4 with 2 outs nobody on in the 9th of game 4 before Lidge went to shtein

Ok, zero chance is not accurate, but I will say this. The Phillies where the defending WS Champs and they were piss your pants scared of the Yankees. Cole was a piece of shtein all season in 09'. Anyone with a brain would have had him on a short leash, but we had Charlie I apparently speak Japanese, but not english manuel in the dugout.

[Don Ho]

No, Charlie speaks caveman.

[Don Ho]

-- They were tied 4-4 with 2 outs nobody on in the 9th of game 4 before Lidge went to shtein

[Rome]

I bought the package again today.

It's literally the only way I can make it thru the summer in this freaking hell hole.

[MDS]

[Chameleon]

It's not Ruben's fault it's whoever hired Ruben's fault. Anonomous owners piss me off.

[Don Ho]

With the signing of Marlon Byrd and Bobby Abreu — and because they're counting on Jimmy Rollins, Ryan Howard and Chase Utley to be the motors of the offense once again — the "Phillies are old" jokes have been all over the place this winter.  My favorite two so far are (1) the one about how they're going to rename the stadium to Senior Citizens Bank Park; and (2) the one in which the announcement of Billy Joel playing a concert there this summer actually lowers the team's average age.

[PhillyPhreak54]