2013 Training Camp/Preseason Thread

Rome · August 25, 2013, 08:20:56 AM

I guess we'll see. I want Teddy B too but it's just not in the cards. They're going to be better than awful and he's a top-3 pick guaranteed. It's possible they'll be a top 10 pick and they could go up if he's there... again, so there's hope albeit a tiny one.

Sgt PSN · August 25, 2013, 08:24:23 AM

I'm all for giving Foles a shot and I think higher of him than Havas, but you really can't be serious by saying that Foles looks like a 10 yr vet.

Let's call a spade a spade here. He looks like a 2nd year QB who wasn't a top QB prospect coming out of college who appears to be exceeding the relatively low expectations people had of him when he was drafted. I like his attitude, his size, his IQ, and his hair and I'll root for the guy to get better and hope that the Eagles found a diamond in the rough, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. He still has a lot of work to do to prove himself.

ice grillin you · August 25, 2013, 08:30:07 AM

Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2013, 08:20:56 AM
I guess we'll see. I want Teddy B too but it's just not in the cards. They're going to be better than awful and he's a top-3 pick guaranteed. It's possible they'll be a top 10 pick and they could go up if he's there... again, so there's hope albeit a tiny one.

why does it matter....nick foles is the future

Rome · August 25, 2013, 09:08:42 AM

i didn't say he looks like a ten year vet. i said he looks like he knows the offense like someone who's run it for a decade.

Zanshin · August 25, 2013, 10:12:36 AM

Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2013, 08:13:42 AM
You're underestimating Foles. He can be an effective game manager and he already looks like he knows the offense like he's been running it for a decade. He's not Brady or Manning, obviously, but he's a legit NFL QB. Like it or not he's probably the future of the team.

Objectively, if he was truly the future of the team, he'd be the present of the team.

reese125 · August 25, 2013, 10:15:48 AM

future foles is kevin kolb +1

typing the name nick foles even bothers me.

ice grillin you · August 25, 2013, 10:16:25 AM

Quote from: Zanshin on August 25, 2013, 10:12:36 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2013, 08:13:42 AM
You're underestimating Foles. He can be an effective game manager and he already looks like he knows the offense like he's been running it for a decade. He's not Brady or Manning, obviously, but he's a legit NFL QB. Like it or not he's probably the future of the team.

Objectively, if he was truly the future of the team, he'd be the present of the team.

exactly....he couldnt beat out an inaccurate 34 year old puppy killer

Rome · August 25, 2013, 10:17:36 AM

I think he's a better option than Vick and eventually he'll be the starter, probably sooner rather than later.

And again, I'm not saying he's great or anything. He's shown that he's at least a competent NFL starting quarterback, though.

Rome · August 25, 2013, 10:18:45 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on August 25, 2013, 10:12:36 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 25, 2013, 08:13:42 AM
You're underestimating Foles. He can be an effective game manager and he already looks like he knows the offense like he's been running it for a decade. He's not Brady or Manning, obviously, but he's a legit NFL QB. Like it or not he's probably the future of the team.

Objectively, if he was truly the future of the team, he'd be the present of the team.

exactly....he couldnt beat out an inaccurate 34 year old puppy killer

Do you honestly believe the play on the field is the reason Vick is starting? Honestly?? Please say no because even you aren't this obtuse.

Zanshin · August 25, 2013, 10:20:23 AM

As a matter of fact, if the Jets didn't just dump a 2nd on Geno Smith, and if Sanchez is legitimately hurt (plenty of ifs, to be sure), the odds of Foles playing for the Jets and Marty in return for an above average pick would be a real possibility.

ice grillin you · August 25, 2013, 10:22:43 AM

i honestly know thats the case....say what you want about chipper but hes been up front this whole time.....he waited to name a starter because he wanted to see someone win the job...vick won it

ill say it again...the future of this team will be playing on saturdays this year...get off foles dick

Zanshin · August 25, 2013, 10:23:34 AM

Vick is starting because Chip thinks he gives the best chance to showcase his offense this year. That's the only possible reason. It's not because Vick is beloved in Philly, it's not because they're saving Foles for some great plan. If Foles was the future, there'd be zero reason not to play him now. It makes sense to play Foles now, anyway...other than Chip wanting to prove his system can be legit in the NFL. If he thought Foles gave him the best chance to do that, it would be Foles, no doubt about it.

Zanshin · August 25, 2013, 10:25:21 AM

And that's coming from me...who can't stand Vick and would like nothing better than to see Foles start.

QB Eagles · August 25, 2013, 10:33:54 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
ill say it again...the future of this team will be playing on saturdays this year...get off foles dick

Given the Eagles drafting abilities, the next franchise QB for the Birds is probably playing on Friday nights or in Pee-Wee league right now.

Eagles_Legendz · August 25, 2013, 11:50:34 AM

I think this is an oversimplification. Once Vick was brought back and it was an open competition, Kelly couldn't with a straight face start Foles after Vick went 13-15 for 200 yards in the first two games. But it's always a mirage with Vick. That's why the play should've been to not bring back Vick, start Foles who at least looks semi-competent, and see what you have over a whole season where they likely aren't making the playoffs anyway. If Foles sucks draft a QB next year. If he's good and they make the playoffs even better. I don't see how Vick presents anything more than the chance to steal an extra game or two when he's on.