Phillies Offseason Thread 12-13

[PhillyPhreak54]

I ain't bettin' all you fools!

Although maybe I should - that way I can collect from everyone.

I'm thinking on it

[ice grillin you]

i got the initial offer....eff all them

[MDS]

shut your hole howie roseman jr

take the bait j. TAKE IT

[SunMo]

Jonathan Papelbon remaining contract: 3 years, $39M + option
Justin Upton's remaining contract: 3 years, $38.5M

[ice grillin you]

and this

Jonathan Papelbon age at end of contract: 35
Justin Upton's age at end of contract: 28

[MDS]

you both forgot to mention ryan howard

[Rome]

And how smug Rube is. 

[Sgt PSN]

i got the initial offer....eff all them

But I made the initial wager.  So I win.  Over/Under 90 wins is too delicious even for me to pass up.

I don't bet on sports and I'd put two bills on them winning less than 90.

Seriously...if this is bet is going down, I want in. If not for $200, then a more modest amount is fine.

[Rome]

Ready....    Go.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I think I may make the bet(s)...

I will decide by opening day.

[SunMo]

from another board...

So Dave Murphy says they are going to enter the season with payroll at around 157. The luxury tax is 178. A team that won 80 games is lowering payroll with 3+ million in attendance and a big tv deal coming.

Lowest payroll since 2010.

[ice grillin you]

that cant shock anyone can it?

they know its over and attendance/viewership is going to fall off the map in the next few years

they need to blow it up and start drafting better

[SD]

that cant shock anyone can it?

they know its over and attendance/viewership is going to fall off the map in the next few years

they need to blow it up and start drafting better

Pretty much

I'm glad they stopped with the bad long term contracts. They're going with what they've got while trying not to hurt their future.

[ice grillin you]

yeah i give them credit for that...it cant be an easy thing to do to basically give up when you have all those big names

also what really seals their fate is the division...if this was 2006 NL east id say maybe go for it...but the phillies could have gotten justin upton and two decent corner outfielders and STILL finished third in the division...the nats are the clear cut best team in the majors and the braves are arguably the second best

[MDS]

basically

the ceiling right now is the 5th wild card...and thats if everything breaks right, mostly with their old team all managing to stay relatively healthy

in fact them more or less throwing in the towel now makes that papelbon deal look that much worse