Phillies Offseason Thread 12-13

[BigEd76]

Probably Kendrick.  I think they're gonna check out some of the lesser pitchers on the market to fill that #4 spot.  Not Edwin Jackson, and Shaun Marcum is probably too expensive, but someone like that...

[SunMo]

kendrick moves up to #4 and pettibone/cloyd will battle for #5 as of right now

[Eagles_Legendz]

May is another of those guys that you hear about a lot and never actually saw but as soon as he's dealt, omgworsttradeever.  How's Jason Knapp doing for the Indians?  And that can't-miss stud Drabek who's out for the year again.  There's no guarantee with pitching prospects, and the three guys Sunny mentioned have a better upside.  Minnesota was desperate for pitching and got two guys that can go into their rotation now, but it's weird that they dealt their new starting CF a week after trading Span.  Maybe the deal was too good to pass up.  I'm not gonna be a homer here but what I've seen of Revere so far looks promising.  He's almost a similar player to Bourn but also plays the corner spots, which Bourn hasn't done since he was dealt to Houston.  As for never hitting a major league HR, getting out of Target Field and coming here is gonna help.  Hell, he might get all the way up to 2 HRs.  He's also a better leadoff guy than Jimmy, but he'll probably hit 2nd since Jimmy is Jimmy.  I also heard he has a shtein arm like Pierre, but I've seen highlights where he reaches the plate with no problem.  He's also going to make at least  $79,500,000 less than Bourn and they have him under control for at least three more years while choke, Cliff and Cole get their $25M.  Figure out 3B (Young, Youk, whatever), get another power bat for RF, get an 8th-inning guy like Adams and things will look better.

That's fine, but it's sort of selective reasoning, no?  You have Carrasco's and Knapp's, and you have Gonzalez's and D'Arnaud.

Considering his age and the fact that it means they aren't shelling out tons of money for someone like Bourn, the better I am with it.  Just the prospect of adding two players who have NO power to the team right now is underwhelming.

[ice grillin you]

May is another of those guys that you hear about a lot and never actually saw but as soon as he's dealt, omgworsttradeever.  How's Jason Knapp doing for the Indians?  And that can't-miss stud Drabek who's out for the year again.  There's no guarantee with pitching prospects, and the three guys Sunny mentioned have a better upside.  Minnesota was desperate for pitching and got two guys that can go into their rotation now, but it's weird that they dealt their new starting CF a week after trading Span.  Maybe the deal was too good to pass up.  I'm not gonna be a homer here but what I've seen of Revere so far looks promising.  He's almost a similar player to Bourn but also plays the corner spots, which Bourn hasn't done since he was dealt to Houston.  As for never hitting a major league HR, getting out of Target Field and coming here is gonna help.  Hell, he might get all the way up to 2 HRs.  He's also a better leadoff guy than Jimmy, but he'll probably hit 2nd since Jimmy is Jimmy.  I also heard he has a shtein arm like Pierre, but I've seen highlights where he reaches the plate with no problem.  He's also going to make at least  $79,500,000 less than Bourn and they have him under control for at least three more years while choke, Cliff and Cole get their $25M.  Figure out 3B (Young, Youk, whatever), get another power bat for RF, get an 8th-inning guy like Adams and things will look better.

That's fine, but it's sort of selective reasoning, no?  You have Carrasco's and Knapp's, and you have Gonzalez's and D'Arnaud.

gavin floyd as well

the difference in all these prospects and may is that may's stock is plummeting...easy says he will go into the twins rotation right away which is just ludicrous....barring some unforseen fix for his control issues id be shocked if he pitches even one inning in minnesota this year and id be surpsied if he ever is a regular starter in the bigs

[BigEd76]

Their rotation right now is Scott Diamond / Worley / Cole De Vries / Liam Hendriks / Sam Deduno.  He can't crack that?

[MDS]

who cares hes in minnesota. they suck.

vance worley is a middle of the rotation starter, theyll find another version of him in a week. kendrick will be the 5. young guys will have a chance to make the rotation and bump kendrick or VETERAN STARTER to the bullpen. probably wont happen.

its a decent trade. revere is very strong defensively and is really fast. is a lefty but hits lefties better than righties. knock on him is lack of walks which leads to a lower obp. if he can become more selective he can get his opb above .350 which would be splendid. doesnt hit homers but who cares. thats not his job. hell create runs with his legs.

may has a slim chance of becoming gio gonzalez and a really good chance of becoming jason knapp. you have to play the odds when it comes to pitching prospects.

[ice grillin you]

Their rotation right now is Scott Diamond / Worley / Cole De Vries / Liam Hendriks / Sam Deduno.  He can't crack that?

in a word no

he barely cracked reading last year

[MDS]

also the michael young trade is horrendous

i know they are giving up nothing for him but he was the worst player in baseball last year. hes old, slow, a hack defensively, has lost his power and probably cant play more than 4 or 5 days a week. youre better off saving the money and the wild card relief pitching prospects and going with frandsen. basically the same player except frandsen might be a better hitter at this point.

plus young has never left texas and would be a worse version of roy oswalt in terms of care factor and interest level. NO.

[Rome]

A legit 3-4 starter and their best hitting prospect for a slap hitter.

omgyay

[ice grillin you]

A legit 3-4 starter and their best hitting prospect for a slap hitter.

lololol

you are the hbionic of phillie fans

[LBIggle]

OMG NO HAMILTON?!

who cares. it's all dependent on how utley, howard, and halladay bounce back. 

young would be horrid.  shtein.. just resign polanco if their going that route.  at least then they won't have to give up anything.

i'm find with seeing what galvis at 3rd, brown, and ruf bring to the table.  maybe more options become available before the deadline.  if everyone comes back and does what their supposed to they should be in contention by then with what they have now.  if not then at least their not adding more horrible contracts.

[Rome]

A legit 3-4 starter and their best hitting prospect for a slap hitter.

lololol

you are the hbionic of phillie fans

I meant pitching, obviously.

But I am a sexy Latino in my heart.

[ice grillin you]

last year revere had the lowest groudball rate of any player since the stat has been tracked (2002)

[Rome]

So he's totally putting that blazing speed to its maximum use then?

[ice grillin you]

i suppose