2012 Flyers Offseason Thread

[Seabiscuit36]

Shots over the Bow.  Love the move.  Sucks for Nashville fans, but all 10K of them will get over it

[Geowhizzer]

There's some talk that the Flyers and Preds were talking trade before, but that the Preds were using Holmgren's offer and shopping it to other teams.

This move means that, at least for next season, Weber would be guaranteed to be either a Predator or a Flyer. If the Preds match, they can't trade him for a year.

With a possible lockout and lack of revenue looming, it may be hard for the Preds to ante up a large signing bonus - and I believe they'll still need additional salaries on top of that to reach the cap floor after losing Suter.

[SD]

holy shtein.....Weber signed an offer sheet with US.....14 years, $100M+

I don't hate this. Salary wise that's a good deal. The 4 first rounders they'd have to surrender would suck but the Flyers have enough young talent and they usually trade their firsts for guys like Versteeg anyway so at least they'd be getting the best defenseman in the game.

from doing some reading, i believe that since the AAV is under $8m the compensation is 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

They only use 5 years towards the average meaning the compensation would be the 4 1sts.

[Seabiscuit36]

Since signing bonuses are usually paid out in a lump sum on July 1 before the season of play, the would mean the Predators would be required to pay Weber $27 million in the next 347 days just to match. To put that in perspective, 16.5 percent of Nashville's entire franchise net worth ($163M as valuated by Forbes Magazine in 2011) would be paid out in less than a calendar year by the small-market team.

[BigEd76]

The Predators released a statement:

We have stated previously that, should a team enter into an offer sheet with Shea, our intention would be to match and retain Shea. Our ownership has provided us with the necessary resources to build a Stanley Cup-winning team. Due to complexity of the offer sheet, we will take the appropriate time to review and evaluate it and all of its ramifications in order to make the best decision for the Predators in both short and long-term.

2012-13 through 2015-16 = $1M salary + $13M SB
2016-17 through 2017-18 = $4M salary + $8M SB
2018-19 through 2021-22 = $6M salary
2022-23 = $3M salary
2023-24 through 2025-26 = $1M salary

Yeah, they're farged

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Deadspin has a good piece on why Homer farging rules due to this offer.

[SD]

Deadspin has a good piece on why Homer farging rules due to this offer.

http://deadspin.com/5927347/shea-webers-massive-flyers-offer-sheet-is-a-cba+beating-masterpiece#13427164963183&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":826}

[Rome]

This really puts it perspective:

What's in it for Weber? This is the truly brilliant part of Philly's offer, and also relates to something the owners are fighting hard for in the new CBA: salary rollbacks. The owners claim they're paying too much money (and yet sign players to $110 million contracts without blinking, but that's not the point.) They're pushing for leaguewide salary rollbacks starting next year, which would even affect existing contracts. How to protect Weber's $110 million from becoming something less than $110 million?
Signing bonuses. Weber will actually only make $1M in salary each of his first four seasons. But he'll receive $52 million in signing bonuses over those four years, and $68 million over his first six. And signing bonuses cannot be touched by any proposed salary rollbacks. True, guaranteed money.
The signing bonuses also mean Nashville has almost no chance of matching the offer. They could match, and try to trade Weber to get something for him. But as Kypreos points out, they'd have to keep him for a full year before attempting to move him, and pay him $27 million for just that one season.

[Seabiscuit36]

It's the NHL's first "Poison Pill" contract that I can think of. 

[Rome]

It's the NHL's first "Poison Pill" contract that I can think of.

Yep. 

[DH]

I wish Crosbys first contract included a poison pill.

[Rome]

I was going to "LOL" but the potential of facing rjs's withering ridicule stopped me.

[Seabiscuit36]

ELL OOOH ELLL

[ice grillin you]

the nhl is  joke.....i seriously dont even want a player like that if you have to steal him from a poor franchise with some shady ridiculous deal

[Rome]

LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL