The Hip-Hop Thread

[ice grillin you]

its the song that was looped by marley marl for the music man beat

[hbionic]

Ah. Got it.

You know...I always felt I was a little better than the average hip-hop fan when I had listened to the original song that was sampled.

What I always came away with was the fact that these producers were more well rounded in terms of music genres vs just being all-about hip-hop. For whatever reason, it made me feel better knowing that DJ Muggs, Premier, Pete Rock, and all these guys ventured into old stuff. Even if it was to sample it. There is a small bridge that was created with sampling that not too many people crossed going back and listening to the original stuff. I was one of the few. 

[ice grillin you]

seems like the one common thread all the great producers had was a parent or parents who were musicians or had huge record collections and were just big fans of music...and back then music was music much more than it became in the 80's and 90's where blacks listended to black music and whites listened to white music...at least from an album standpoint...

so in 1976 it wasnt completely unusual for a 30 year old black man from red hook or queensbridge who listened to the fatback band ohio players and grant green but also steve miller band little feet and mountain...and this is why golden era hip hop has so many different kinds of influences

[ice grillin you]

pretty cool new beasties with nas...their album is fairly solid for new hip hop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNB8pNqwrKw&feature=player_embedded

[hbionic]

Hmm...have to listen to it a few more times...maybe it has to sink in. But it didn't feel like the voices meshed well with the beat. If you would have told me that the lyrics were played over some other beat...that would have explained it better...but...not feeling it too much. Remember, I'm beats and rhythm first...lyrics second.

[ice grillin you]

yeah i know this about you

i lean that way as well...tho not as strongly as you...and i dont thing this song is super special or anything but it makes me feel nostalgic and now a days i cant ask for much more than that

[hbionic]

yeah i know this about you

i lean that way as well...tho not as strongly as you...and i dont thing this song is super special or anything but it makes me feel nostalgic and now a days i cant ask for much more than that

which is probably the worst thing that can be said about hip-hop nowadays. 

[ice grillin you]

yeah pretty much which is why i am still making mixes from the late 80's early 90's

[Sgt PSN]

Def sounds like the lyrics start falling off the beat a little and then get pulled back in sync and then start falling off again.  But that song definitely has an old school vibe going on and maybe that's why the beat and lyrics don't always match up since that was fairly common in a lot of early hip hop....you'd get guys excessively stretching out words to make them fit.  Could be some subtle tribute or something to the old days.  A+ for fitting in a JJ Fad/Supersonic reference. 

[SunMo]

i'm trying to expand my hip hop horizons so I downloaded Mos Def's Black on Both Sides which I really like, and The Roots' Things Fall Apart

I like both so far, but need more ideas. 

[Sgt PSN]

I farging love The Roots.   Been following them since my senior year.  I know they went a little more mainstream in recent years and it's pretty annoying seeing them as the house band on Jimmy Fallon, but they're still one of my all time favorite groups. 

Are you looking for new(er) artists to listen to, older or just anything that you haven't heard before? 

[SunMo]

older stuff really.

IGY's trying to learn me the ways of a hip hop guru

[ice grillin you]

i'm trying to expand my hip hop horizons so I downloaded Mos Def's Black on Both Sides which I really like, and The Roots' Things Fall Apart

I like both so far, but need more ideas.  

if you like those two then you probably lean towards white rap and would love eminem - tribe called quest - mf doom and will smith

[SunMo]

i don't like tribe called quest

[rjs246]

I don't know if Sun is trying to poke the bear by saying that he doesn't like Tribe, but I really hope that he is.