Lockout Thread

[MMH]

"The NFL is a monstrous ATM machine, And the people inside that machine are fighting over twenties."

Ordinarily, I think Gregg Doyel is a sanctimonious douche, but no truer words were ever written.

[ice grillin you]

again the players arent fighting anyone....they were locked out...unless hes referring to infighting amongst the owners

[Sgt PSN]

I think the point is more to the fact that all of the bickering is over chump change. 

[MMH]

again the players arent fighting anyone....they were locked out...unless hes referring to infighting amongst the owners

You can't be serious.  Both sides are being flat out ridiculous.  farg all of them.

[ice grillin you]

how are the players ridiculous...they wanted to keep the status quo of a system that was making everyone gobs of money

the owners decided to lock them out and then asked the players to give a couple billion dollars back

if a cba had expired here and both sides couldnt come to a deal...then id say well lets look and see what both sides are asking for and then lay blame....but this is 100% on the owners

[SunMo]

how are the players ridiculous...they wanted to keep the status quo of a system that was making everyone gobs of money

the owners decided to lock them out and then asked the players to give a couple billion dollars back

if a cba had expired here and both sides couldnt come to a deal...then id say well lets look and see what both sides are asking for and then lay blame....but this is 100% on the owners

it's incredible that people can't comprehend this

[Diomedes]

It's a matter of fact.  The difference is education.  You have either educated yourself on the matter or you have not.

Obviously, this is a fight the owners picked. 

And don't mistake me for saying that the status quo is perfect, nor that the player's union is either.  Just that it's clear that this is happening because the owners made a move to get more/give the players less.

[SunMo]

8th circuit court of appeals orders temporary stay

so, we have a stay, pending review of original stay, pending the appeal

[PhillyPhreak54]

farging legal garbage

farg you NFL

[QB Eagles]

8th circuit court of appeals orders temporary stay

so, we have a stay, pending review of original stay, pending the appeal

Nope, ESPN's story was wrong. The 8th Circuit hasn't done shtein yet.

[QB Eagles]

8th circuit court of appeals orders temporary stay

so, we have a stay, pending review of original stay, pending the appeal

Nope, ESPN's story was wrong. The 8th Circuit hasn't done shtein yet.

As of a couple minutes ago, the 8th Circuit HAS ordered the stay.

[Eagaholic]

so lockout is back on, temporarily. but I think it's not a permanent stay if I understood.

[MMH]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/08/rumors-fly-of-a-complete-nfl-shutdown/

If this is true, I'm on board with the rest of you.  The CBA had a buyout clause which the players agreed to, and it was legally exercized.  The owners picked the fight, the union went for strict litigation, which bothers me.  The only way this would get resolved was bargaining, IMO, and that still appears to be true, since nothing is happening right now.

However, if the league decides to default, after demanding numerous cities and states pay for their stadiums, leaving said cities and states on the hook, they should all be set ablaze.

[phattymatty]

I love football. Football is pretty much what I live for, and it seems to me that only the players are interested in making football a reality this fall. So if you're somehow on the side of management in this NFL dispute, please know that you are wrong and that you are stupid and that I farging hate you.

[reese125]

Time for Demarcus Smith to pick up his pants, realize he just got farged and lost this battle, and come to some kind of an bargaining agreement with the owners ASAP.