The Officials Explanation On The Collie Hit

Started by PhillyPhreak54, November 07, 2010, 10:02:05 PM

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Sgt PSN

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/17557/collie-hit-was-clean-say-two-colts-dbs

A couple of Colts' db's think it was clean too.

Quote"No, it didn't look like intent," said Aaron Francisco, who has started at free safety for Indianapolis since both Bob Sanders and Melvin Bullitt got hurt. "When a player gets hit by two guys, not really simultaneously but one after another, it's kind of hard as a defensive back to keep your head out of the way. That guy is getting hit towards you, you don't know where his head is going to be or whatever.

They have so many rules out there, it's tough to be a hitter nowadays, you know what I mean?"

Said cornerback Jacob Lacey: "It was a football play, it looked like a clean hit. You don't wish that on anybody, or want anybody to be hurt or anything like that. But it looked like a clean hit. The first guy kind of gave him that momentum to swing into the other guy."

DH

Quote from: SunMo on November 08, 2010, 07:28:20 AM
we were losing our minds in our seats...

Oh farg yea..I dont think my guys and I were as vocal as we were yesterday since TO's return.

Rome

that officiating crew is lucky the eagles won yesterday.  they might have not made it out of the stadium if the colts had come back and won.

Seabiscuit36

Mikey Miss is shockingly saying hits like this need to be eliminated, and its all for ratings because thats his game.  They had a clip from the Colts broadcasters, and the main announcer's vadge leaked thru the radio.

SD, share that  thing if you can find it.  IGY would love it
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Sgt PSN

As bad as the officiating was, the refs didn't make the Eagles defense part like the red sea when James walked untouched into the end zone from 7 yards out.  Yeah, the refs made some horrible calls yesterday.  Boo-hoo, shtein happens.  The real problem that's been highlighted here is that the refs are going to err on the side of caution.  The swipe of Manning's head is horrible, but I can't fault the refs for making the call because the rule says that anytime the QB gets contact to the head it's a penalty.  There's no grey area with the rule and there's no room for interpritation because the league wants it to be consistant.  And one thing that fans never ever think about is the fact that these refs get critiqued after every game, not only for the (bad) calls that they make, but also the calls that they don't make.  I guarantee that if he doesn't throw the flag on that play that it's going to reflect on that ref's grade for the season....which could affect his abilty to work postseason games. 

The officiating has been bad this year (it seems like) around the entire league.  I don't know if it's because of some of the new(er) changes that are being made or if it's just a fluke year or what, but I'm pretty much done with bitching about the refs once the game is over.  Sure, I still have the knee jerk reaction during the game but after a couple hours, I really couldn't give a damn.   


charlie

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Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
As bad as the officiating was, the refs didn't make the Eagles defense part like the red sea when James walked untouched into the end zone from 7 yards out.  Yeah, the refs made some horrible calls yesterday.  Boo-hoo, shtein happens.  The real problem that's been highlighted here is that the refs are going to err on the side of caution.  The swipe of Manning's head is horrible, but I can't fault the refs for making the call because the rule says that anytime the QB gets contact to the head it's a penalty.  There's no grey area with the rule and there's no room for interpritation because the league wants it to be consistant.  And one thing that fans never ever think about is the fact that these refs get critiqued after every game, not only for the (bad) calls that they make, but also the calls that they don't make.  I guarantee that if he doesn't throw the flag on that play that it's going to reflect on that ref's grade for the season....which could affect his abilty to work postseason games. 

The officiating has been bad this year (it seems like) around the entire league.  I don't know if it's because of some of the new(er) changes that are being made or if it's just a fluke year or what, but I'm pretty much done with bitching about the refs once the game is over.  Sure, I still have the knee jerk reaction during the game but after a couple hours, I really couldn't give a damn.   



Is Jonny Marks licking your sack while you type that?

I agree with the anti-ref-bitching once the game is over though.

Sgt PSN


Zanshin

Why, want to check to see if it's the guy licking your sack?

Sgt PSN

Exactly.  I don't know who this dude is but he won't stop gargling long enough to identify himself.

Sgt PSN

Google isn't even giving me anything. 

"Jonny Marks" gives me a MySpace Music profile, Facebook profile and a regular MySpace profile. 

Redirected to "Johnny Marks" who was a (Jewish) song writer who specialized in Christmas Songs (mock) and died in 1985. 

Don Ho

Quote from: NC_Eagle on November 08, 2010, 11:45:22 AM


Ball in control...check. Two feet down...check. Looks like possession to me. Don't recall Collie getting hit helmet to helmet, but don't have a good video handy. Photo is from SI's site, they are saying the same line as the league so far.

How in the hell is this considered defenseless?  Two feet down, he's moving forward, he's even bracing for the hit!  And yes it should have been a fumble. 

Agreed Rome, if the Colts had come back and won last night those refs would have been killed. 
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Don Ho

Sarge,

Johnny Marks is on 97.5 in Philadelphia.  Local ESPN radio affiliate.
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Don Ho on November 08, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
Sarge,

Johnny Marks is on 97.5 in Philadelphia.  Local ESPN radio affiliate.

Never heard of him.  Then again, I usually catch a little bit of Vai and Gonzo on my way to work and then if I'm able too, I'll listen to Mikey Miss at my desk....although for the most part, it's just background noise and I'm rarely ever paying attention.   

SD

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2010, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 08, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
Sarge,

Johnny Marks is on 97.5 in Philadelphia.  Local ESPN radio affiliate.

Never heard of him.  Then again, I usually catch a little bit of Vai and Gonzo on my way to work and then if I'm able too, I'll listen to Mikey Miss at my desk....although for the most part, it's just background noise and I'm rarely ever paying attention.   

Jon Marks is Mikey Miss's producer, he's that other voice you hear when the show is on. Jon Marks is probably the coolest guy that works for the station.

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
Mikey Miss is shockingly saying hits like this need to be eliminated, and its all for ratings because thats his game.  They had a clip from the Colts broadcasters, and the main announcer's vadge leaked thru the radio.

SD, share that  thing if you can find it.  IGY would love it

Not in until Thursday

Munson

Quote from: SD on November 08, 2010, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2010, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 08, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
Sarge,

Johnny Marks is on 97.5 in Philadelphia.  Local ESPN radio affiliate.

Never heard of him.  Then again, I usually catch a little bit of Vai and Gonzo on my way to work and then if I'm able too, I'll listen to Mikey Miss at my desk....although for the most part, it's just background noise and I'm rarely ever paying attention.   

Jon Marks is Mikey Miss's producer, he's that other voice you hear when the show is on. Jon Marks is probably the coolest guy that works for the station.

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 08, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
Mikey Miss is shockingly saying hits like this need to be eliminated, and its all for ratings because thats his game.  They had a clip from the Colts broadcasters, and the main announcer's vadge leaked thru the radio.

SD, share that  thing if you can find it.  IGY would love it

Not in until Thursday

Sometimes it seems like he just wants to choke Mikey Miss out. You can hear him laughing in disagreement but he knows if he says anything, Miss is just going to out-whine him on the topic.

I used to like Mikey Miss but the more I listen to him, the more he reminds me of some sort of lovechild between Cataldi and IGY. Hyperbolic, saying shtein for the ratings, etc.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds