The Officials Explanation On The Collie Hit

PhillyPhreak54 · November 07, 2010, 10:02:05 PM

Unreal...are these farging guys serious?

From Mosley's blog:

QuoteA pool reporter asked referee Carl Cheffers and back judge Todd Prukop for a clarification following the game, and that's when things really got interesting. They both agreed that the penalty was actually on Coleman, who sounded stunned about the ruling when reporters showed up at his locker.

Since Collie appeared to have possession of the ball before the hit caused it to pop out, Cheffers was asked to define "defenseless receiver."

"Well, if he is completing the catch, his second foot is not down yet or it's just down, we still give the defenseless receiver protection. So if it is a bang-bang type play, with his second foot coming down, he still gets protection on that play. The fact of the matter is, is that ball was incomplete. So, he has protection throughout that entire process on that play because we don't even have a completion -- at no time did he have possession and become a runner to where he would have transitioned out of being a defenseless receiver."

Well, that really clears things up. Asked what Coleman did to deserve a penalty, Prukop chimed in, "So, he makes contact with the shoulder to the back of the helmet of the receiver."

If you've watched a replay, you know that's flat-out wrong. Coleman never used his shoulder to hit Collie in the back of the helmet. Eagles coach Andy Reid was very careful with his words following the game because he wanted to avoid a fine for criticizing the officials.

shorebird · November 08, 2010, 06:48:38 AM

That call was baaaad, and making excuses for it makes it even worse, friggen' dickhead.

SunMo · November 08, 2010, 07:28:20 AM

we were losing our minds in our seats...incredibly awful call

Rome · November 08, 2010, 07:30:14 AM

I'm a lot less angry than I was yesterday but hearing and reading the NFL's explanations for what occurred yesterday is just painful. I'm embarrassed for them, actually.

Oh, and by the way... you guys SHOWED UP yesterday. Damn it was loud even on tee vee.

MMH · November 08, 2010, 07:34:03 AM

Well, that's a load of shtein. I hope Coleman doesn't get a James Harrison like fine, since that would be about 15% of his annual gross salary.

SunMo · November 08, 2010, 08:17:45 AM

the "defenseless" part of it was what enraged me the most. how the farg was he defenseless WITH THE fargING BALL IN HIS HANDS?

SD · November 08, 2010, 08:27:33 AM

Quoteat no time did he have possession and become a runner to where he would have transitioned out of being a defenseless receiver."

Here's my favorite part of their explanation. This is where the NFL is lying through their teeth. He DID have possession but because of a jarring hit it was knocked loose. I'm glad the national idiots are getting this one and the Cole grazing Mannings helmet ones right. What's really sad is even without those two awful calls - which kept the Colts in the game - the refs were still awful. The 'running into the punter' call was terrible, thankfully it didn't lead to a 1st down. The call on Dmitri Patterson where Reggie Wayne runs into him...just terrible. I lost track of how many 3rd down penalties lead to Colts 1st downs, but I think it was something like 6.

Seabiscuit36 · November 08, 2010, 08:32:29 AM

I really hope the league steps up and says they farged up the meaning of both calls. Isnt this the crew that the head ump couldnt get his words out a few weeks back explaining a call?

phattymatty · November 08, 2010, 09:16:21 AM

yeah that officiating was the worst i remember seeing in recent memory. i also have no voice today.

Zanshin · November 08, 2010, 09:32:45 AM

Awful. I walked away pissed off, even with the win.

mussa · November 08, 2010, 09:43:18 AM

Come on we all watched the replay Coleman did go helmet to helmet by accident yesterday it wasn't intentional he hit mostly with the shoulder but at that speed yeah it knocked Collie out. Killa's penalty was the worst of the game, terrible. It was one of the most frustrating games to watch because you know Peyton can take it down the field at anytime and we gave him the ball with time to kick and win it. Thank god Peyton sucked it up yesterday...

Tomahawk · November 08, 2010, 10:41:16 AM

The Collie play still looks clean to me and should have been a fumble. Refs overreacted to a guy getting knocked out

Drunkmasterflex · November 08, 2010, 10:46:54 AM

Quote from: Tomahawk on November 08, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
The Collie play still looks clean to me and should have been a fumble. Refs overreacted to a guy getting knocked out

This is exactly what happened.

NC_Eagle · November 08, 2010, 11:45:22 AM

Ball in control...check. Two feet down...check. Looks like possession to me. Don't recall Collie getting hit helmet to helmet, but don't have a good video handy. Photo is from SI's site, they are saying the same line as the league so far.

Tomahawk · November 08, 2010, 11:56:10 AM

The helmet to helmet happened immediately after that snapshot. Mikell's hit forced Collie's and Coleman's heads to collide. But since he is already a runner, and not a prone receiver, it's legal.

I'm more mad about the Eagles getting cheated out of a fumble recovery than anything