Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia Eagle

[charlie]

Annointing vick the starter from here out pretty makes this season completely useless unless they win it all.

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actually the more i think about this is about anticipating no season next year and then coming back in 2012 with someone totally different. Kolb is just too old to be a rookie learning a system. by the time 2012 rolls around he's 28 years old.

[ice grillin you]

Talk about andy's and FO pride - I'd say their biggest fear is getting pointed and laffed at bc of all they spent on vick only to get nothing in return.

i dont think this is a factor or else they wouldnt have sat cobb

after all they spent far more on cobb...not just in dollars but also in trading a first rounder for him

with vick they gave up nothing and already can say their reclamation of him has been successful....imo if anyone in this equation is a save FO pride guy its cobb

[JackStraw]

2010 $5.2mm option pick-up and $1.5mm roster bonus plus whatever they paid him last year? I also think they put some of their self-perceived "credibility" or "deal smarts" on the line which may even account for more in the pride area than the cash they've spent on him...

[smeags]

so again you think the money is the issue ? when as pointed out they are paying kolb much, much more ?

[ice grillin you]

12.5 mil to cobb over two years
tons of criticism over making him their first pick in 07
anthony spencer on dallas
trading mcnabb in division


not to mention the stakes being much higher for cobb...he is supposed to be the future of the franchise....vick is a success if they simply keep him out of jail

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So, this JackStraw guy.... mentally challenged?  Is it insensitive to be making fun of him?

[Don Ho]

Isn't that what we do best?  Fair game.

[Eagaholic]

Rotoworld

Kolb
At his Tuesday press conference, Eagles coach Andy Reid refused to rule out a Kevin Kolb trade prior to the October NFL trade deadline.
Reid reemphasized that Kolb has "a bright future," but the Eagles are perhaps the most aggressive team in the league, having become even more so since GM Howie Roseman took over this offseason. We have to believe they'll listen to any trade proposals. The Browns were reported to have strong interest in Kolb during draft weekend, and there is plenty of quarterback uncertainty throughout the league. The Eagles will definitely get offers. Sep. 22 - 12:47 pm et
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Damn, if they trade Kolb without any backup Howie is out of control.

[ice grillin you]

in a couple minutes wip will be playing reids presser in full....they are teasing it by saying the media really got after him

i guess half the questions werent asked by spadaro and eskin this time

[JackStraw]

my point was they did spend significant time and money on vick and that his trade value - assuming good play the next few weeks, will never be worth more than it is now. And if he eventually goes later for nothing, then yes, it is a failed experiment. Wasn't the whole deal to "bring him back" as an undervalued asset then flip him like they did with other QB prospects?

regardless i do think vick doesn't last for anywhere near the entire season and trading him before the deadline brings best value. What value would cobb have given his performance since august (yeah yeah I know the standard o-line defense of him) and now probably a glass jaw on top of it?

the likely scenario is they both muddle through a mediocre-to-poor season of alternating games of suck. all this shtein about whose "named" the starter is immaterial

[ice grillin you]

i agree with all that

all im saying is in terms of saving face its much more important to the eagles for cobb to be their future qb than to get a draft pick for vick

[SD]

in a couple minutes wip will be playing reids presser in full....they are teasing it by saying the media really got after him

i guess half the questions werent asked by spadaro and eskin this time

They hardly 'got after him' at all. It was the same old crap that we're used too. He emphasized and reemphasized over and over again that this had nothing to do with Kolb's play but rather with Vick playing on a high level. That's really the highlight of the presser in a nutshell.

[Eagaholic]

It's true though that he wouldn't rule out trading Kolb, he just said "I want Kevin Kolb on this team." He also said he talked with one guy and one guy only before making the decision (Howie presumably).

[ice grillin you]

whether he actually answered the questions or not i actually thought it was one of the hardest hitting pressers of his tenure...even eskin was smacking him around...for once the philly media didnt go soft on andy

[MDS]

i didnt listen but i have to imagine im tougher on the high school football coaches i cover

and im not tough on them cause its high school football and theyre coaching 5'3 mexican kids