2010 Week One: Packers Discussion

Started by PhillyPhreak54, September 08, 2010, 11:40:28 AM

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ice grillin you

its going 18....the players would go for a 26 game schedule if they got caked off enough

i also think the injury thing is overrated

yes more people will get injured in an 18 game schedule because its two more games not because players will be more injury prone in those games

for example there wont be more injuries in games 17 and 18 than there are in games 4 and 5
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

lol, love 99.9% chance it doesn't happen.  more like 1000% chance it does happen.


how do injuries in week 1 prove anything about week 17 and 18?
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

i just love the random weeks getting thrown around.
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

charlie

Adding more games to the schedule is going to hurt a lot of things about the game, but it's gonna happen because money trumps all.

Players are going to have shorter careers. In high school they play, 8 or 9 games a year, college is 10-11 games, and then to jump to the pros where you're going to play in 18 games? PLus preseason, then 4 potential weeks of playoffs? a single player could go from 11 games to 24 games in a year. You watch the average careers plummet.

Adding two more games weakens the schedule, and waters down the division play... yada yada yada...

But the players get more money, the teams get more money, the fans get to watch more, so it's all good.

ice grillin you

please keep your posts under 20 words

thank you
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

charlie


QB Eagles

I actually doubt that "careers will be shortened". In terms of games played and money earned per player, they'll be lengthened. More careers end due to getting too old and losing your skills than due to catastrophic injury. These guys will have a chance to play more games when they are young and in peak condition.

Every eight years of 2 extra games buys a player one year of earlier retirement, if they want it. [Assuming they get paid for the extra games, which they definitely will.]

Tomahawk

Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2010, 07:50:36 AM
its going 18....the players would go for a 26 game schedule if they got caked off enough

i also think the injury thing is overrated

yes more people will get injured in an 18 game schedule because its two more games not because players will be more injury prone in those games

for example there wont be more injuries in games 17 and 18 than there are in games 4 and 5

Exactly...look how many people got hurt in week 1.

An 18 game schedule will allow a player who got hurt in week 14, 15, or 16 to come back in time to play in meaningful end of season games or the playoffs

TexasEagle

Quote from: charlie on September 15, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
But the players get more money, the teams get more money, the fans get to watch more, so it's all good.

This is all that matters.

All the whining about injuries to "star" players? Well, expanded rosters means more players. There's any number of low round/ undrafted players every year that make NFL rosters and become stars. Being a name isn't what's important. Hell most "fans" don't know half the players on their own team. They root for the uniform. All these bleeding hearts for the players maybe getting hurt more are so full of it it's ridiculous. The bitch and moan about some guy that makes millions of dollars *maybe* getting hurt while at the same time they cheer wildly when someone on their team makes a big hit. The hypocrisy is unreal.

NC_Eagle

So when Indy or the Pats or whoever the dominant teams are at the time lock up their division in week 13-14 of an 18 game season and play their scrubs for the remaining 4-6 games of the season so their starters go into the playoffs rested/healed, how is that good for football as a whole again?
Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad.

TexasEagle

If they win enough games early on to be able to rest players and cruise to the playoffs what's the problem? If the Eagles managed to lock up the division by week 12 and rest players for the last 6 games of the season to have "stars"/ starters healthy for a championship run would you seriously complain? Why should any team be penalized for being good and winning games? Besides, how many times have the Colts locked up the AFC South early and fizzled in the playoffs. They've only won 1 Superbowl.

Every team in the league fields the same amount of players and any given team can win the Superbowl every year. That's why the sport is so popular. Being dominant in today's NFL means jack. Look no further than the 18-1 New England Patriots. Being dominant throughout the year helped them a whole lot in the Super Bowl, didn't it?

Munson

I believe what he's saying is the product on the field for those games would have a pre-season feel to it...aka zesty
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

TexasEagle

I know what he's saying but the truth of the matter is there's no way to force a competitive balance which is the real issue behind arguments like that. It's a straw man and something that cannot be enforced no matter what the league does (ie placing divisional games at the end of the schedule).

Every year there are going to be games that are not exciting no matter what standards are in place just like every year "star" players are going to get hurt. It's a reality of the game but it in no way diminishes the popularity of the sport. The fact remains there are no legitimate arguments against increasing the schedule. Honestly, I could care less either way, I'm just tired of the belly-aching and overreacting for something that's going to be done no matter what.

ice grillin you

Quote from: TexasEagle on September 15, 2010, 10:45:22 PM
The bitch and moan about some guy that makes millions of dollars *maybe* getting hurt while at the same time they cheer wildly when someone on their team makes a big hit. The hypocrisy is unreal.

very few major injuries occur because of big hits


Quote from: TexasEagle on September 16, 2010, 03:34:41 AM

Every year there are going to be games that are not exciting no matter what standards are in place

everyone knows this...what the peole against adding games are saying is that there is going to be substantially more meaningless games and wouldnt you want to have as few of them as possible each year

the fact of the matter is the 16 game schedule is perfection and it shouldnt be messed with no matter your reasons for being against it are
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

i can't believe there's a single nfl fan in the universe who wouldn't prefer 18 & 2 over 16 & 4.

i'm sure someone here will prove me wrong, though.