2010 Eagles Draft Discussion

Started by PhillyPhreak54, March 12, 2010, 10:25:58 PM

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Seabiscuit36

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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 08:11:19 AM
i doubt that


i like bowman but at the same time i think hes a tad overrated if you go by the "experts" draft boards...many people have him going in the second....i think he would be a decent third round grab

I agree with this, Bowman is nothing special. Penn State players (especially LBs) are overrated. This isn't the good ole days.

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 20, 2010, 09:03:25 AM
multiple reports had him being better than Quinn. 

He's the best QB from that draft and he's only played in two games.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.

if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.

Until then, no.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

charlie

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.

if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.

Until then, no.

Your strangely placed anger towards Kolb so far has been riveting.

Rome

I'm not saying Bowman isn't overrated.  I don't know or care enough about him to dispute that.


Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 20, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
Time to lay down the sword and shield, PG.

if/when he proves himself to actually be a starting QB in the NFL, I'll do just that.

Until then, no.

Your disdain for him makes little to no sense.  You don't like him because of where he was drafted? He didn't have any control over that. 

The main reason I like him is because he isn't McNabb.  As far as Bowman I think them getting Sims pretty much makes that a moot point.  Bowman would be a WIL in the NFL correct?
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 20, 2010, 11:27:52 AM
The main reason I like him is because he isn't McNabb. 

thats why she hates him
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

You're wrong. I've posted a NUMBER of times (before McNabb was traded) that they should blow up the team. Why am I once again explaining this?

Its not Kolb's fault. My anger isn't at HIM, its at the front office for (IMO) overvaluing a QB who I think is not up to starting QB standards. The same way I was never angry at Pinkston for his suckage. It wasn't HIS fault the FO/Reid made him a #1 WR in a system that passes a gazillion times a game. You all hated on him. But as a #3 WR he would have been a great fit.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

charlie

Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 20, 2010, 12:14:34 PM
You're wrong. I've posted a NUMBER of times (before McNabb was traded) that they should blow up the team. Why am I once again explaining this?

Its not Kolb's fault. My anger isn't at HIM, its at the front office for (IMO) overvaluing a QB who I think is not up to starting QB standards. The same way I was never angry at Pinkston for his suckage. It wasn't HIS fault the FO/Reid made him a #1 WR in a system that passes a gazillion times a game. You all hated on him. But as a #3 WR he would have been a great fit.

How, exactly, is he being "overvalued"?

He hasn't gotten a contract extension, and they're basically rebuilding the whole team and he's being given the opportunity to start. He was a projected 2-4th rounder, who they may have taken a little early... but who really cares?

It's a 1 year deal.

The comparison to pinkston is totally wrong. Pinkston was a Hoyda who was too scared to be a starting WR once he actually realized what it took to maintain the production he put up that one year before the contract extension.

PhillyGirl

No, its not wrong. Its a perfect example of the FO overvaluing their draft picks or free agents.

Something that has been talked about on here for years. Suddenly its not an issue because its Kolb?

Drink the KoolAid much?
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

ice grillin you

i think shes saying they overvalued him when they drafted him

and the comparison to pinkston is horrible because cobb has yet to be a full time starter

its hard to compare him to many players because he has played but has yet to start...but if anything she should be comparing him to someline matt mccoy as a player who before ever starting was clearly a guy who couldnt play in the nfl
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 20, 2010, 12:28:03 PM
i think shes saying they overvalued him when they drafted him

and the comparison to pinkston is horrible because cobb has yet to be a full time starter

its hard to compare him to many players because he has played but has yet to start...but if anything she should be comparing him to someline matt mccoy as a player who before ever starting was clearly a guy who couldnt play in the nfl

Well, McCoy was a given. But its not just drafting, its Free agents as well. Did ANYONE think Kirkland would help us at LB like they tried to sell us? Or that Small/Johnson, Pinkston/Thrash were actual 1-2 WRs?

And yes, I was talking about overvaluing him in the draft. Reaching and then anointing him the #1. Not KOLB's fault, not McCoy's fault, not Pinkston's fault, etc. They FO's fault. 100%
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Rome

Pinkston & McCoy both had their shots to show what they have in the NFL and both failed.

Isn't Kolb worthy of being given an equal shot to prove himself especially considering what he showed in those two games last year?

I'm not saying he's going to be the reincarnation of Johnny Unitas or anything but burying him before he's even been given a chance to fail is unfair to the guy.

ice grillin you

mccoy didnt deserve a shot...and what pg is saying is that cobb doesnt either...which is why thats an apt comparison
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Sure he does...however, the FO should never put these guys in the positions they do
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen