The 2010 Point and Laugh at the Eagles thread

[SD]

like you know anything about reporting, journalism or the industry.

I chortled.

As did I

Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.

[Dillen]

Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.

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[Rome]

It's two field goals and an extra point, duh.

[SD]

Nobody on here plays college football but I'm sure 99% of the posters could tell you what a 4-3 in the NFL is. lol at todd acting like it's nuclear science.

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congrats on being the 1%

[PhillyGirl]

Are they still pullling the "we're not rebuilding" story now?

[MDS]

this year is gonna be pretty bad, no doubt

but itll be fun in the sense that we'll see what we got in kolb and good lord are the nfc east games gonna be epic. we'll get our is it 5's fault or andy's fault answers (the answer is both btw) and most importantly we know we wont lose in the nfc title game.

not only because the eagles arent good enough to even make the playoffs, but because the qb isn't a lame duck choking dog soft ass loser anymore! rejoice!

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Kind of interesting tidbit from Matt Mosley:

In Sunday night's blockbuster trade with the taterskins, the Eagles accomplished their goal of landing a top-42 draft pick for 33-year-old quarterback Donovan McNabb. And Eagles fans might be interested to know that teams have done pretty well with that pick over the years.

According to our friends and ESPN Stats & Information (Jason McCallum), it's been 25 years since Philadelphia selected Randall Cunningham with the 37th pick overall. And former Eagles quarterback Ron Jaworski just happened to be a No. 37 pick in 1973 -- for the Rams.

Other notable picks at No. 37 overall:

    * Darren Woodson, Cowboys (1992)
    * Leonard Marshall, Giants (1983)
    * Cris Collinsworth, Bengals (1981)
    * Jon Jansen, taterskins (1999)

Heh.  If the Eagles draft Tebow, all hell will break loose.

[PhillyGirl]

That Bible thumping crybaby?

Would be the single worst thing. Ever.

[phattymatty]

i would love to see vick and tebow together. 

[phillymic2000]

there is no way in hell they would draft Tebow. Come on people, like they are that stupid

[Seabiscuit36]

i thought it was established they would be selecting the gargantuan QB from that small school.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Bob Ford nails it:

Bob Ford: McNabb trade shows Reid's clout fading

By Bob Ford

Inquirer Sports Columnist

The clock has stopped ticking on Donovan McNabb now, and it has begun to tick on Andy Reid. Very loudly.
Reid gave in and moved past McNabb on Sunday, sending the first draft selection of his long tenure here, the centerpiece of his holiday table, to the Washington taterskins for a second-round pick this month and a third- or fourth-round pick next year.

McNabb's career
2010 NFL Combine
Farewell, Brian Westbrook

On Easter, the team finally acknowledged it had laid an egg.
For McNabb, the ledger shows six Pro Bowls, a record book full of passes and completions and touchdowns and wins. Eleven seasons, all building toward a celebration that never arrived, all an endless stream of taking the same actions and expecting different results.

That was team president Joe Banner's line after the NFC championship loss to Arizona in the 2008 season. So Reid got one more season with McNabb and got one more result that was more of the same. In fact, the ghastly end of the season might have even made it a step back.

For the organization, taking the same actions for another season - sticking with McNabb for a 12th year - had gone beyond being a definition of insanity and become a definition of impossibility.

The balance of power inside the Eagles has swung away from Reid. That's what happens to a head coach, even one as powerful as Reid has been, when you don't win. Banner, with protégé Howie Roseman in place as the general manager, has more sway now, and the next thing you know, Donovan McNabb has been swayed out of town.

Make no mistake. This wasn't the best deal the Eagles could have gotten. Trading McNabb within the division was hardly a good idea, or their first option. This was the best deal they could have gotten that McNabb would agree to. Reid admitted as much when he said he had run the deal past agent Fletcher Smith to get a thumbs-up.

McNabb wasn't going to land in Buffalo or Oakland or some other NFL scrap heap, and the Eagles didn't get as good a deal as a result. They still made it, however, because this had become simply a matter of dumping McNabb after a critical mass within the organization shifted in that direction.

"We had interest in all three," Reid said, saying teams had inquired about obtaining McNabb, Kevin Kolb, and Michael Vick. "We sat back and evaluated. We sat back and listened. It was that simple."

What was simple was that McNabb would be gone. Perhaps that will turn out to be the right move. Perhaps Kolb will be as good as Reid and the rest of the front office hope. Maybe Vick won't become a petulant problem shunted into a reserve role for another season. Maybe all that.

But they don't know. What they knew was that the parking meter had expired on McNabb and the new balance of power in the front office wasn't going to countenance another season of taking the same actions and expecting different results.

The coming season is now a rebuilding year, regardless of what any of them might say.

"I don't see it that way. When the time comes to play, we'll have a good football team," Reid said. "We felt these moves will help us down the road here."

A pattern has formed, though, as the Eagles have moved past Sheldon Brown, Brian Westbrook, Kevin Curtis, Chris Gocong, and others. This is a cleansing, and no harsher detergent could be applied than the one that washed McNabb out of town.

"I'll tell you this: The fifth pick in the second round is not a bad pick," Reid said, putting his spin on what the Eagles got this year for the 11 years and Pro Bowl service of McNabb. "The compensation was right."

Reid fudged on the question of why he insisted McNabb would remain his starter - "he was the starting quarterback until he went elsewhere" - but that's the least of it. Team executives don't always tell the truth. Sometimes they don't want to. Sometimes they can't. With Reid, it was either one or the other.

Only two questions really remain now: Will Kolb be a good quarterback, and will he be good enough for Reid to keep his own job?

"I don't have a crystal ball," Reid said. "I think Kevin needs to go prove [himself] and be Kevin Kolb and not Donovan McNabb. Make his own mark and be his own man, do his own thing. Everything else is a subjective decision on my part. I've got confidence in him to do this."

Of course, he had confidence in McNabb to complete the job, too, and now, finally, we know that was misplaced. Reid got that one era of mistakes and survived. He won't survive another.

The next time the team president speaks ominously about not repeating the past and expecting different results, he won't be talking about the quarterback.

It's actually somewhat scary that Reid may be losing some sway. He sucks, but at least he has a football mind, where as Howie and Banner....well....don't.

I think the Vick angle is definitely going to be something to watch. Part of the reason for him coming to the Eagles after the klink was to be with McNabb. That's concerning. With Kolb trying to establish himself, Vick better not be chirping. I think they still try to deal him.

[rjs246]

I still have no idea why Vick is on this team.

[DH]

And thats now what scares me the most..We're one torn ACL away from 16 games of Mike Vick.

[BigEd76]

Kind of interesting tidbit from Matt Mosley:

According to our friends and ESPN Stats & Information (Jason McCallum), it's been 25 years since Philadelphia selected Randall Cunningham with the 37th pick overall. And former Eagles quarterback Ron Jaworski just happened to be a No. 37 pick in 1973 -- for the Rams.

Van Brocklin was a #37 pick too, but he was taken by the Rams...