No Hippos Jai Alai Thread

Started by ice grillin you, October 28, 2009, 10:05:59 AM

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Sgt PSN

when does his contract expire?  after this season i assume? 

i also don't think i'll ever get mds' hate on iggy.  it's pretty much as ridiculous as billy beane hating on jroll.  iggy is not a "super star" who is going to carry a team through a season but i don't blame him because the sixers have decided to make him "the guy."  he's a nice player though who would do quite well playing 2nd fiddle.   

MDS

i dont his game, i hate him.

his a fine player. i just dont like his attitude, his persona, the way he carries himself on the court. i want to punch him in the face.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Sgt PSN

so pretty much the same way everyone here feels about you

BigEd76



fake glasses and well-dressed omg who does he think he is...McNabb?

MDS

i dont give a shtein what they are like off the court, i dont want to be their friends. but yes, the glasses are terrible.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

The BIGSTUD

The most annoying thing about Iguodala is that he thinks he is way better than he is. He often takes shots that he'll never hit consistently. He tries to play like Kobe and Lebron, but he just isn't close to being as good.

Gotta love when at the end of games when down 2, he'll drive down and jack a 3 with 16 seconds left on the shot clock.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

reese125

sarge has it correct--he was everyones favorite when playing with iverson because he was the perfect complimentary players that did it all (except shoot consistent jumpers)

iverson rolls, there is nobody on the squad that has the ability like he does...so they extend him, pay him big money to step his game up and he becomes the guy here

a guy with the kind of skill had/has should get every opportunity to be the man. his ceiling as a player still wasnt reached. if youre a fool, you walk into your coaches office and turn down the role.  the coaches gave it a shot for 2 years, and Im sure they see the tape and now realize he cant handle it....and will hopefully look to correct it thru FA down the line--just hope that line gets here real fast

ice grillin you

i dont think the coaches thought he would step up and become a first/final option guy...anyone whos ever watched basketball could see he doesnt have a handle that would allow him that status...but they did see a poor mans scottie pippen second wheel type that could do everything and do it at a high level...just not a star level

the problem is they added an aging hurt power guy to the lineup instead of a true point (should have drafted rondo) or two that would consume the ball (wade this summer)...iguodala should not ever be the lead on offense...but all to often he has the ball at the top of the circle or out on the wing in a half court set 
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

so why not trade him and his contract for tmac and some salary relief. get a top pick, work with that, thad, mo, lou and jrue and in a year or two buy brand out of his contract. then, you have loads of $ to play with in free agency. at that point, a little someone named kevin durant might be a rfa. i think hes worth the max, and okla city might not match that.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

because hes the best player on the team by far

lol @ thinking kevin durant plus lou williams thad young and jeru the damaja consititutes some sort of hope or a contender

i dont think andre is untouchable or anything but you have to be sensible about it...to trade him just to trade him is stupid
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

the point is to win an nba title

trading him to free up cap space so you can max out for someone 2-3 years down the road is probably your best bet to accomplish this.

the only way you can legit win the nba is by having a top 10 player. gotta either have $$$ to burn or to get lucky in the draft. so why not kill two birds with one stone, trade your best player, lose, and hope it works out. what other option do they have? keep him and keep him the cycle of mediocrity going? sign me up.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

reese125

whether you hate him or not hes not even close to the problem. His skill set is very hard to come by in the nba and is very much needed on any team


as far as his handle: Ive never been fan of his handle, but I do think its more first step and what to do with the basketball after you get around the defender that separates you from the others. Ive seen this guy drive baseline too many times with ease, pass to the cutter and make it look too easy--driving up his assists totals...but also very inconsistent penetrating from the top of the key--where he gets lost after that and creates to's. it doesnt help though that half these players are in the wrong position, dont move well without the ball and draw their defenders right towards the ball creating less space for anything of value to happen (even Iverson).  

I like the guy and appreciate the hustle he brings each night, but really hope a big change is coming soon

MDS

melo- 2012
cp3- 2013
dwight- 2013

brand comes off the books in 2013, and you can logically buy him out by 2011 or 2012. is getting one of those 3 guys worth it? will they even be on the market at that point? who farging knows. so what can you do? you can keep tanking and hope to get lucky, thats what. maybe john wall is the next AI or DWade. maybe hes not. but what you got right now isnt going to get anything close to better, so you have to hope that something random will work out.

look at getting AI in 97. look at the cavs getting lebron or the lakers getting kobe. pretty much nothing but dumb luck. thats what you need.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

farg melo...he stinks

and why are you acting like the sixers can just by out brand whenever they want...you know that the player has to agree to a buyout?...its not a simple thing and doesnt usually give you a ton of cap space even when it happens...theres no point in even thinking about a buyout right now
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Dillen

Clearing out every salary in hopes of getting one of the best players in the league in free agency 3 years later is retarded. Those guys never hit the market, and when they do there's going to be a more appealing team to go to who offers the max too. You just need to get lucky somehow.

When's the last time one of the best superstars in the league changed teams in free agency which led to a title? It mightve happened recently, seriously I dont know. But it doesnt happen often, and sure as hell wont happen to the Sixers.