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rjs246 · October 30, 2009, 10:15:45 AM

He has the slowest release in history. But when he gets the ball out he's accurate. I don't actually want him on the Eagles or anything remotely like that, but I wouldn't mind if McNabb were capable of completing 60+% of his passes.

Rome · October 30, 2009, 10:30:54 AM

Campbell has all the tools a good NFL quarterback needs. He's got prototypical size and arm strength and he's fairly accurate with a career completion percentage over 60%.

He's been relegated to learning system after system with a new coach seemingly year in and year out. How the farg is a guy supposed to excel or even become consistently competent going through that?

ice grillin you · October 30, 2009, 10:37:52 AM

campbell is dumber than a rock and thats why he will never be a good qb regardless of the disadvantageous situation hes been in with the skins

his completion % is what it is because he is incapable of going down field so everything is a quick short high % throw to his first option

he is simply unable to read a defense

reese125 · October 30, 2009, 11:06:15 AM

are there really heads in here touting Jason friggin Campbell? how much more do you need to see of a guy? the skins are/were predominantly a running football team, so its not like hes there is a hodge podge of passing plays that he cant learn the system and move the ball downfield. he has been given every opportunity

there are plenty of stiff qbs in the league that have size and arm strength--which is exactly what campbell is

PhillyPhanInDC · October 30, 2009, 11:10:04 AM

Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
He has the slowest release in history. But when he gets the ball out he's accurate. I don't actually want him on the Eagles or anything remotely like that, but I wouldn't mind if McNabb were capable of completing 60+% of his passes.

His release could be worked on. He could definitely find success in the right situation. Not interested in seeing him figuring it out with the Birds either, just making the point that he's not awful.

Quote from: reese125 on October 30, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
are there really heads in here touting Jason friggin Campbell? how much more do you need to see of a guy? the skins are/were predominantly a running football team, so its not like hes there is a hodge podge of passing plays that he cant learn the system and move the ball downfield. he has been given every opportunity

there are plenty of stiff qbs in the league that have size and arm strength--which is exactly what campbell is

Nobody is touting the dude. Just saying he's not god awful and/or the reason the skins are awful.

reese125 · October 30, 2009, 11:15:28 AM

and I think Byron Lefty might have a leg up on him for slowest release in league history

I dont think the release can be worked on Phanin. These guys have been throwing the ball like that for years and its what makes them (in their mind) a better/accurate passer.

You can imagine how many coaches have told them or worked with them that the release has to change..but they cant shake it

phattymatty · October 30, 2009, 11:16:49 AM

i think Campbell is actually a really big reason the skins are so awful.

ice grillin you · October 30, 2009, 11:23:10 AM

Quote from: reese125 on October 30, 2009, 11:15:28 AM
and I think Byron Lefty might have a leg up on him for slowest release in league history

I dont think the release can be worked on Phanin. These guys have been throwing the ball like that for years and its what makes them (in their mind) a better/accurate passer.

You can imagine how many coaches have told them or worked with them that the release has to change..but they cant shake it

you absolutey can change a qb's release....happens all the time...problem is the skins coaching staff has either been horribly untalented...in flux or both for cambells whole career so hes never had the proper tutelage

that said the guy stinks and i dont think he would have been a starting nfl qb regardless....basically what matty just said is truth

reese125 · October 30, 2009, 11:41:56 AM

Im sure it does happen on occasion where parts of the qbs positioning and release is tweaked...but youre now asking a guy to speed up his whole delivery of the ball from take back to release-- something Campbell is not even remotely accustomed to

that said I think you would see even more inaccuracies and growing pains from the guy...but whatever Id rather revert back to what matty said as well

ice grillin you · October 30, 2009, 11:50:18 AM

youre not asking a guy to speed up his whole delivery...all you generally have to do to speed up a qb's release is have him not bring the ball as far back...the speed of his actual arm remains the same...all that changes is the distance the arm moves

changing the release speed of a qb is much easier than changing a release point...in fact its simple

its why when drafting a qb you rarely ever hear about a slow release because it can be changed in one mini camp...where as an awkward release point is much more difficult to change and more than that the success rate of a qb after he changes a release point is really low

Seabiscuit36 · October 30, 2009, 01:51:37 PM

ice grillin you · October 30, 2009, 02:08:57 PM

mcnabb is so farging phony

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