2009 Philadelphia Phillies - Season's Over, Time to Move On

Started by SunMo, April 02, 2009, 01:24:16 PM

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Geowhizzer

Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 10, 2009, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2009, 10:54:56 PM
Dammit, Madson's overthrowing.

He looks nervous...or something

Big change from pitching th 8th & 9th.  Settled down nicely, though.

The Phils lost one they probably should have won, and won one they probably should have lost.

BigEd76


Geowhizzer

Quote from: BigEd76 on June 10, 2009, 11:02:11 PM
that was intense for a June 10 game

Is there a team more worthy of hatred than the New York Mets?

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PhillyPhreak54

I was hoping Utley would charge the corn fed shteinbag from Kansas. All he did was step out and "Pelf", as Hernandez calls him, got all zesty.

The Mets crew is annoying. Well, the PBP guy and Hernandez are; I like Darling.

Great catch by Werth....I thought that was a gapper for sure and with Martinez on first, a sure game-winner.

King was terrible tonight. But the BP was pretty good despite allowing a lot of baserunners.

PhillyGirl

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 10, 2009, 11:12:52 PM
I was hoping Utley would charge the corn fed shteinbag from Kansas. All he did was step out and "Pelf", as Hernandez calls him, got all zesty.

And if he got ejected, he's not there to hit the HR to win the game.

Some things are more important.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

LBIggle

they won a close game?  awesome.  take 2/3 and go home feeling pretty good about their road trip.. even though they SHOULD have taken the west coast 7-0.  and then they get to play the sox.. hahaha. i hoped they enjoyed those games vs the nats.   bring it home old man.

MDS

they have the second best record in the majors you idiot. theyve won plenty of close games. thats why they have the second best record in the farging major leagues. wake up.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Don Ho

Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 10, 2009, 09:33:58 PM
And Durbin sucks.

Durbin has looked like absolute crap this season.   With Madson moving into the closer role for the immediate future Durbin has got to step it up.  Feeling a little better now that JC is back.

What is with Dobbs?  He's looked like a deer in the headlights since he was the DH in Tampa during the WS.  I thought he was going to pee his pants up there against Rodriguez the other night.
"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

ice grillin you

Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 10, 2009, 10:44:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 10, 2009, 09:29:47 PM
they have to win this game to soften the blow of utley being a complete pussssssie tonight
Is he a pussssssssie now?

yes

absolute great player but he got some of that so cal bitch in him

pelfry needs to be chin checked


chan ho eaton - 2
moyer - 1
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD_Eagle5

I wrote that bet off as a win once Park went to the pen. At least he's making it interesting.

Quote from: Don Ho on June 11, 2009, 03:19:39 AM
What is with Dobbs?  He's looked like a deer in the headlights since he was the DH in Tampa during the WS.  I thought he was going to pee his pants up there against Rodriguez the other night.

I'm confident he'll start hitting again but I wouldnt' expect anything like we've seen the past 2 seasons. Good niche pinch hitters like Dobbs don't last long. Shortly someone will come along and give me a career pinch hitter that lasted 10 seasons, but that's the exception not the norm. They're interchangable parts otherwise they'd all be starting.

Seabiscuit36

Quote"It's kind of nice having Utley," Manuel said with a smile. "I kind of like Utley."

lol
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

Seabiscuit36

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4248759
Ibanez bringing the heat to some douche blogger
QuoteRaul Ibanez of the Philadelphia Phillies is bristling at the suggestion in a blog that his offensive numbers could be the result of performance-enhancing drugs. And he's perfectly willing to be drug tested to prove it, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

"I'll come after people who defame or slander me," he said Tuesday night before the Phillies played the New York Mets, according to the report. "It's pathetic and disgusting. There should be some accountability for people who put that out there."



Raul Ibanez
#29 LF
Philadelphia Phillies
2009 STATS

GM
56 HR
20 RBI
55 R
47 OBP
.384 AVG
.327
You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said, according to the report. "I'll give you back every dime I've ever made" if the test is positive, he added.

"I'll put that up against the jobs of anyone who writes this stuff," he said, according to the Inquirer. "Make them accountable. There should be more credibility than some 42-year-old blogger typing in his mother's basement. It demeans everything you've done with one stroke of the pen.


"Nobody is above the testing policy. We've seen that."

Ibanez, the leading vote-getter among outfielders on the National League All-Star ballot, was responding to a post on the Midwest Sports Fans site. In that post, the site's managing editor, Jerod Morris, using the pen name "JRod," tried to make the case that Ibanez's numbers were a result of several factors -- but added that given recent baseball history, speculation about performance-enhancing drugs could not be ignored.

Ibanez, 37, is off to a career-best start in his 15th major league season, his first season calling hitter-friendly Citizens Bank Park home.

Entering Wednesday's games, Ibanez is first in the National League in four offensive categories, with 55 runs batted in, 47 runs scored, a .682 slugging percentage and 152 total bases. He's second in home runs with 20 -- just three behind his career average. He's hitting .327, a full 39 points higher than his .288 career batting average. His career slugging percentage is .491 and he's averaged 96 RBIs a season.

But Ibanez is playing in the wake of the steroid era, where big statistical leaps raise eyebrows and elicit whispers. He's also playing in the Internet era, where those whispers can take on a life of their own.

"Unfortunately, I understand the environment we're in and the events that have led us to this era of speculation," Ibanez said, according to the Inquirer. "At the same time, you can't just walk down the street and accuse somebody of being a thief because they didn't have a nice car yesterday and they do today. You can't say that guy is a thief."

In the original post, Morris, who says he's 27, detailed a number of factors that could explain Ibanez's hot start, including the hitter-friendly parks where he's homered and some of the poor pitching the Phillies have faced.

But Morris also acknowledged that in the current baseball climate, "It's time for me to begrudgingly acknowledge the elephant in the room: Any aging hitter who puts up numbers this much better than his career averages is going to immediately generate suspicion that the numbers are not natural, that perhaps he is under the influence of some sort of performance enhancer."

While Morris said he wanted to give Ibanez the benefit of the doubt, he also said the suspicion could not be dismissed outright.

"Maybe the 37-year old Ibanez trained differently this offseason with the pressure of joining the Phillies' great lineup and is in the best shape he's ever been in," he wrote. "And maybe that training included ... Well, you know where that one was going, but I'd prefer to leave it as unstated speculation. However, if Ibanez ends up hitting 45-50 homers this year, you can bet that I won't be the only one raising the question."

On Wednesday, Morris posted another entry and offered a partial apology. He said he felt more secure about Ibanez's numbers, noting Ibanez's improvement with men in scoring position, and said he had no ax to grind with the outfielder.

"I'll accept some level of accountability and offer a sincere apology to Raul Ibanez for advancing a public debate that, in his specific case, is very likely unfair and perhaps even unnecessary," Morris wrote.

"However, I'm not accepting complete blame and accountability for being the person who started this. I just tried to do my homework and write a cogent response to speculation I had heard from other sources," Morris continued.

"If Raul Ibanez, or any other player who is speculated about for putting up great numbers, is upset at the speculation, the majority of their anger and venom in my opinion should be directed towards their past and present peers who used steroids and PEDs," Morris added.
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.