Browns Talk & Predictions

[shorebird]

Man, the I like Jaws, but Kornholer needs to STFU. I can't believe he's still talking about TO and the Eagles after that prick has been gone for three years. Give it a rest for christ sakes.

If the Eagles don't start punching it in more frequently when they get to the Red Zone, they won't win shtein whether they make the playoffs or not. And right now with the way Tampa and Atlanta are playing that friggen' tie is going to come back and bite the Eagles in the ass.

[Rome]

Sam Donnellon: Eagles coach Reid's game management simply Maddening

By Sam Donnellon

Philadelphia Daily News

Daily News Sports Columnist

HERE'S A question, and I'm only half-joking: If you took 10 kids who played "Madden'' on a regular basis and pitted them against Andy Reid, how many would win?
Because every time I hear John Madden complain about people who don't play his video game correctly, or honestly, I wonder - well, what would he think about Reid's game management on most weekends?

Specifically, what would he have thought about it in the first half of last night's 30-10 victory over the Cleveland Browns?

Would he, after a completion put the ball on the Browns' 2-yard line with 35 seconds left in the first half last night,

allow 26 seconds to evaporate while getting his team to the line and running the ball, before calling his final timeout with 9 seconds remaining?

Would he emerge from that timeout and be called for an illegal formation?

Would he then "dial up'' a dangerous lob pass into the end zone off that timeout? One that resulted in an interception, a near-disastrous 98-yard return that looked eerily familiar to that pivotal play in Baltimore four games ago?

Come to think of it, would Madden approve of having a backup quarterback pass from the 1-yard line in that tight game against the Ravens?

See what I'm getting at?

You're supposed to learn from your

mistakes, right?

So why doesn't he?

I know, I know. On a night when the Birds manhandled Cleveland as if the Browns were a Pop Warner team, how can I fixate on this? But that's just the point. Smug, stubborn or stupid, the Eagles head coach can manage to make you scratch your head or pull on your hair even on a night like this, a night when his quarterback managed the game masterfully (mostly), when his star running back reinforced that he is the team's lifeblood, when the Eagles, as a team, executed well and treated the four-win Browns the way they should have treated the Bengals.

The Birds went into the locker room at halftime with a 17-3 lead. So why did it feel so, so . . . yucky? Was it because Brian Westbrook had to run about 100 yards on the final play to prevent a 98-yard interception return from turning into a 17-10 lead? Was it because your team's touch-football playcalling had directly resulted in 10 lost points?

Last week a 71-yard blocked field goal returned by the Giants for a touchdown on the final play of the half flipped what could have been 13-0 at the half into 10-7. Reid's strategy was not at fault there. In fact, the Eagles had begun the drive from their own 42 with just 1:02 left, had managed the clock brilliantly.

So it's no slam-dunk that any of the 10 kids would beat him.

But I bet more than a few would give him a game.

To be clear: Reid is a good NFL coach. He has proven that again this December, just when doubt had reached its highest level in his tenure here. The Eagles executed well on offense last night. Their defense made a third-string quarterback seem like a fourth-string quarterback. Under Reid, the Eagles have tended to peak late rather than early, unless you count those three consecutive losses in NFC Championship Games, or that winnable Super Bowl that was frittered away.

Those were all supposed to be building blocks, learning tools if you will, that would season and school the young coach - still just 50 years old. He would get better at time management. He would manage risk better. He would adjust to his personnel, not make them adjust to him.

But then you see the end of the first half last night. The bad time management, that ill-advised pass from McNabb that harkened to that fourth-quarter

interception thrown by Kevin Kolb, the one that flipped a winnable game against the Ravens into an embarrassing rout and shaved the Eagles' margin of error to zero.

Last night there was also this direct snap to DeSean Jackson on a third-and-goal from the 7-yard line early in the game, a call that Madden probably wouldn't even allow to be programmed into his game. Jackson threw into the middle of the end zone and was intercepted.

The Eagles led 10-3 at the time.

They finished 2-for-7 in red-zone efficiency.

That meant little last night against a team that would be hard-pressed to beat the winless Lions. The Browns, in their current state, look like a fantasy team constructed by a 10-year-old who does not play Madden frequently, or at all.

But it could mean something 5 days from now in Washington. Or 2 weeks from now, in the season finale here against Dallas. From here on in, the

Eagles need to rely on execution near the goal line, not trickery.

Play the game the way it's supposed to be played, Madden tells those 10-year-olds.

If he's smart, Reid will do the same.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

[shorebird]

It's bad, you see Cbuck come in a break a nice run, you have Bwest in the backfield, and Reid just doesn't friggen' get it. Never has, never will.

[SD_Eagle5]

And right now with the way Tampa and Atlanta are playing that friggen' tie is going to come back and bite the Eagles in the ass.

Tampa is terrible

[Rome]

I criticized the fade in Spadaro's forum and his response was he'd rather see the fade than a sneak because Rogers is evidently 600 pounds and shoots fireballs from his eyes.

[rjs246]

Can we all agree to murder the next person who mentions Spadaro? Thanks.

[Rome]

Can we all agree to murder the next person who mentions Spadaro? Thanks.

Sarah Connor Chronicles was great last night.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

This win was all passing game execution.  Reid called a poop game and the running game did little.  Thankfully, the Browns are a really, really bad team.  McNabb was money all night as well.

[Feva]

This win was all passing game execution.  Reid called a poop game and the running game did little.  Thankfully, the Browns are a really, really bad team.  McNabb was money all night as well.

Yeah, other than that zesty throw in the end zone, McNabb was on point last night.

Speaking of which, what the farg is Reid doing on that play?  You gotta QB sneak that... and if somehow you got stopped with the huge O-line and 240 lb QB on your side... more power to them.  If you are going to pass... you gotta roll McNabb out and give him the option to either run it in, or fire that motherfarger out of the back of the endzone if nothing is there.  Then you've got 3rd down to take another crack at it... which should be kept on the ground.

Instead, Andy calls that fade... which they haven't been running before this season... and McNabb throws the flattest pass ever.  Granted, the guy made a good play on the ball, but McNabb's gotta throw that ball long to where if Hank can't get to it, it flies out of bounds.  Thank God for Westbrook and Hank hustling on the play.

[Magical_Retard]

the fade has worked this season the previous two times this season so i understand the call.

i could also see that with 9 seconds left and no timeouts they wanted a quick pass and if its incomplete still have time to line up for a FG.

i get all that. but still i would just have mcnabb sneak the ball in.

and for once yesterday they lined bwest and cbuck at the same time in the backfield. of course they passed mostly out of those formations but still it was nice to see.

if they play like that against the skins they will not win. i hope this was reids "i need to pass and get it out of my system" game and i hope he puts his ego aside for the skins game.

i know better but i still hope

[rjs246]

Andy Reid needs to die.

[Tomahawk]

According to the announcers, Reid has the highest Pass to Run ratio of any head coach in NFL History.

[Tomahawk]

the fade has worked this season the previous two times this season so i understand the call.

i could also see that with 9 seconds left and no timeouts they wanted a quick pass and if its incomplete still have time to line up for a FG.

i get all that. but still i would just have mcnabb sneak the ball in.

and for once yesterday they lined bwest and cbuck at the same time in the backfield. of course they passed mostly out of those formations but still it was nice to see.

if they play like that against the skins they will not win. i hope this was reids "i need to pass and get it out of my system" game and i hope he puts his ego aside for the skins game.

i know better but i still hope

The pass will never be out of his system. I'm hoping that game was planned to not rely on Westbrook because the Browns suck

[Feva]

I'm with you.  I was arguing with some other Eagles fans at halftime that the correct call in that situation is a QB sneak.  I just don't think they would've been able to stop that... and I realize that Shaun Rogers was in there.

But IF they pass, which they did... I think the fade was the wrong choice.  Again, it's still relatively new to the Eagles... and McNabb ain't necessarily known for his touch passes.  9 seconds is plenty of time for a rollout for McNabb to either run it in, hit an open guy or chuck it to stop the clock for one more play.  I just think there's less risk with that playcall.

Of course, a better pass from McNabb would've made this whole thing a moot point so...

[PhillyPhreak54]

Another note on the fade; its being telegraphed because Baskett never lines up wide on that side in goal line unless they throw that fade. So when a DB sees Baskett trot out there he should know what is coming right away. McDonald made a great play on that ball though.

The trickery does need to stop. Its not cute, Andy...get the points and be done with it.

Kevin Kolb looks horrendous.