The coming financial crisis

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Cerevant

An agent can be a great source of information if you get a good one.  My last agent spoke up while we were walking around admiring the newly finished basement, "You know, the heater, water heater, washer and dryer are all new.  I bet this place was damaged in the flood (2 years ago).  If you don't trust your agent, don't bother getting one - just contact the agent of the person selling the house.  You should be able to get a kick-back on the buyer's agent commission the seller would have paid.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

ice grillin you

Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 12:09:08 PM
Bullcrap. Why pay for a home inspection when you might not buy the house?

$400 dollars to protect yourself when youre dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars is nothing in the grand scheme of things...and again the seller is the one coming out of pocket as a result of what the inspector finds...why would the seller pay someone that is gonna cost them money

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
By the way, most of the inspectors are in bed with agents and thus want to facilitate the sale of the house also.  If they're a constant pain in the ass, will agents ever recommend them?


ive sold and bought a total of six houses and ive found the opposite to be true...inspectors are being paid to find shtein and they usually do their job very well...all the ones i have dealt with have been anal as shtein...im sure some are in bed with agents but i havent found one yet...also the chances that a house sale falls thru because of a home inspection i would imagine is pretty rare
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 11:30:11 AM
More useless advice:

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 12:48:15 PM
An agent can be a great source of information if you get a good one.  My last agent spoke up while we were walking around admiring the newly finished basement, "You know, the heater, water heater, washer and dryer are all new.  I bet this place was damaged in the flood (2 years ago).  If you don't trust your agent, don't bother getting one - just contact the agent of the person selling the house.  You should be able to get a kick-back on the buyer's agent commission the seller would have paid.

shorebird

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Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2008, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 12:09:08 PM
Bullcrap. Why pay for a home inspection when you might not buy the house?

$400 dollars to protect yourself when youre dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars is nothing in the grand scheme of things...and again the seller is the one coming out of pocket as a result of what the inspector finds...why would the seller pay someone that is gonna cost them money

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
By the way, most of the inspectors are in bed with agents and thus want to facilitate the sale of the house also.  If they're a constant pain in the ass, will agents ever recommend them?


ive sold and bought a total of six houses and ive found the opposite to be true...inspectors are being paid to find shtein and they usually do their job very well...all the ones i have dealt with have been anal as shtein...im sure some are in bed with agents but i havent found one yet...also the chances that a house sale falls thru because of a home inspection i would imagine is pretty rare

Because the seller is the one making the money and after the first inspection he already has one for any other buyer. Also, like I said before, the seller isn't obligated to fix anything.

Major anal, dickheads personified.




Seabiscuit36

apparently Shorebird got raped by an agent/inspector train
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

shorebird

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 30, 2008, 01:06:33 PM
apparently Shorebird got raped by an agent/inspector train

Let's just say I've lived and learned.

PoopyfaceMcGee

The truly evil ones are the appraisers.  farging douches, all.

ice grillin you

Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2008, 12:56:30 PM
Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 12:09:08 PM
Bullcrap. Why pay for a home inspection when you might not buy the house?

$400 dollars to protect yourself when youre dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars is nothing in the grand scheme of things...and again the seller is the one coming out of pocket as a result of what the inspector finds...why would the seller pay someone that is gonna cost them money

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 12:32:06 PM
By the way, most of the inspectors are in bed with agents and thus want to facilitate the sale of the house also.  If they're a constant pain in the ass, will agents ever recommend them?


ive sold and bought a total of six houses and ive found the opposite to be true...inspectors are being paid to find shtein and they usually do their job very well...all the ones i have dealt with have been anal as shtein...im sure some are in bed with agents but i havent found one yet...also the chances that a house sale falls thru because of a home inspection i would imagine is pretty rare

the seller isn't obligated to fix anything.

and the buyer isnt obligated to do a home inspection
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
The truly evil ones are the appraisers.  farging douches, all.
and their fancy measuring tapes
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

shorebird

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 30, 2008, 01:19:26 PM
and the buyer isnt obligated to do a home inspection

No shtein. Geez, your power of reasoning is only exceeded by your attention to the obvious.

Cerevant

Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 11:30:11 AM
More useless advice:

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 12:48:15 PM
An agent can be a great source of information if you get a good one.  My last agent spoke up while we were walking around admiring the newly finished basement, "You know, the heater, water heater, washer and dryer are all new.  I bet this place was damaged in the flood (2 years ago).  If you don't trust your agent, don't bother getting one - just contact the agent of the person selling the house.  You should be able to get a kick-back on the buyer's agent commission the seller would have paid.

So, if you can't trust anything the agent says, what is the point of getting one?  To set up showings?  You are certainly going to save more money by ditching the agent than you would by making a stink about the home inspection.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: shorebird on July 30, 2008, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 11:30:11 AM
More useless advice:

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 12:48:15 PM
An agent can be a great source of information if you get a good one.  My last agent spoke up while we were walking around admiring the newly finished basement, "You know, the heater, water heater, washer and dryer are all new.  I bet this place was damaged in the flood (2 years ago).  If you don't trust your agent, don't bother getting one - just contact the agent of the person selling the house.  You should be able to get a kick-back on the buyer's agent commission the seller would have paid.

So, if you can't trust anything the agent says, what is the point of getting one?  To set up showings?  You are certainly going to save more money by ditching the agent than you would by making a stink about the home inspection.

Because they have access to properties the minute they come on the market, and 10 times more properties than what you could get from sale papers or the internet.

Cerevant

They do see properties 1-2 days before they make it to realtor.com, but I've never seen a listing not show up on that site.  Is that worth $6000 to $7000 to you?  *shrug*
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on July 30, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 30, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
The truly evil ones are the appraisers.  farging douches, all.
and their measuring tapes of mass destruction

shorebird

Quote from: Cerevant on July 30, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
They do see properties 1-2 days before they make it to realtor.com, but I've never seen a listing not show up on that site.  Is that worth $6000 to $7000 to you?  *shrug*

If you contact your sellers agent, or if you have a realtor contact your sellers agent, your not paying anymore of a commision. The realtors split it. And you can also have the deal were the seller pays the commision. They are the ones making the money. They should pay. The way the market is now, the buyer can set the standards of most any deal.