Westbrook fires agent Fletcher Smith

Started by SD_Eagle5, July 17, 2008, 01:42:43 PM

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Wingspan

Sal Palintonio said he was asking for 30M yesterday on Missinelli's show.

fwiw...Sal Pal said that the birds were going to give him 10-15M, but then instead of signing the re-done deal, he fired his agent. He also mentioned that there is a rule limiting how much the birds can give him via a restructed contract.
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ice grillin you

if thats true then give him the max you can and call it day
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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SunMo

that jives with what Howard was saying earlier.  he just thinks that Westbrook doesn't understand the situation.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Seabiscuit36

I dont think westbrook is the smartest person, but a hell of an athlete
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reese125

Im guessing it might have something to do with this--


Question: Now that 2009 is the last capped year, are there rules that impact player contract negotiations and a club's salary cap planning?

Answer: Yes. Here are the key differences:

    * After the last game of the 2008 regular season, signing bonus proration is reduced from a maximum of six years to a maximum of five years.
    * In 2009, there is no June 1 rule for Signing Bonus acceleration. If a player is removed from the roster or his contract is assigned via waivers or trade at any time in the 2009 League Year, any unamortized signing bonus will be immediately included in Team Salary.
    * There is no year-end netting of incentives in 2009. Not-likely-to-be-earned incentives are charged to team salary immediately when earned, and likely-to-be-earned incentives are deducted when they are no longer possible to earn.
    * Guaranteed salary from 2010 and beyond is reallocated to capped years unless the entire 2009 salary is guaranteed.
    * 50% of guaranteed salary in any League Year beyond 2012 is reallocated to capped years.
    * The 30% increase rule restricts salary increases from 2009 to 2010. For example: a player with a $500,000 Salary in 2009 would be limited to annual salary increases of $150,000 ($500,000 x 30%) beginning in 2010.
    * A team can include only three veteran team incentives in a player contract covering 2009 and beyond. These incentives must also be coupled with a playtime requirement. Previously, clubs were limited to eight team incentives and no playtime requirement.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Thanks, reese.  All of that information is pertinent to this situation and clears it up in a big way.

ice grillin you

Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2008, 11:07:44 AM
that jives with what Howard was saying earlier.  he just thinks that Westbrook doesn't understand the situation.

do you believe that....theres no possible way westbrook if told properly believes he can get more than the actual cba allows

my guess is that fletcher smith misunderstood the cba rules and told westbrook we will go and get 30 million...later on it was brought to their attention that the most he could actually get in a re do would be "X"...at that point westbrook got pissed at fletcher and fired him for imcompetancy
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

i guess that's possible.  i think it's just as possible that the Eagles came to them for a restructure offering XX and Westbrook told Fletcher that he wanted 30 million.  Fletcher may have told him he can't get that and Westbrook told him he'll find somebody who can.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Rome

Fletcher Smith misunderstood the CBA and an athlete didn't.

Sure.  That could happen.  Toats...

ice grillin you

Quote from: Rome on July 23, 2008, 11:21:51 AM
Fletcher Smith misunderstood the CBA and an athlete didn't.

Sure.  That could happen.  Toats...

agents have been fired and disbarred for incompetancy

very few if any players fully understand the cba...especially with how it can change yearly...thats why they pay their agent and lawyer so much money...

here you go...

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:iyY34Z4_6zkJ:www.delawareonline.com/blogs/2008_01_01_archive.html+brian+westbrook+i+let+my+agent+handle+that&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us

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Brian Westbrook's contract is still an issue. Westbrook, currently in Glendale, Ariz., fulfilling sponsorship duties and making the rounds on "Radio Row," told the Philadelphia Inquirer that his contract is "something I really haven't talked much publicly about, and I'm going to continue that. I think my agent [Fletcher Smith] is going to handle all those things for me and, hopefully, things will work out."


Quote from: SunMo on July 23, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Fletcher may have told him he can't get that and Westbrook told him he'll find somebody who can.

that doesnt make any sense...even the most stubborn person in the world if told they literally and legally cant get that amount would fire someone to hire another person that cant get that amount

i cant believe anyone would even entertain this as a possibility...i dont know where the proof of this is...but i suspect its propaganda being put out by the eagles and/or eskin

could fletcher smith have misunderstood the amount he could get....yes

could fletcher smith has recommended to westbrook to take a deal that was less than brian wanted...absolutely

could westbrook have perceived smith to be to close to the eagles front office because of his connection to mcnabb...sure

all those are legit possibilities as to why he would have been fired...but not that other garbage that is being thrown around
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Fletcher Smith has been an NFL agent for how many years now?  He's one of the best, so stop it.

Westbrook is acting like a lunatic and Smith told him so.  The result?  Pink slip.

SD_Eagle5

I didn't thoroughly read through the the entire CBA but I don't see any restrictions under Article XIV titled 'NFL Player Contracts' that would prohibit the Eagles from extending his current deal and adding more money in. I think there might also be a loophole that might work for both teams and that would be an incentive laden deal.

rjs246

Do you nerds actually try to read and absorb all of that shtein? Christ. Nerds.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SD_Eagle5


rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.