Lito Sheppard - He Once Was An Eagle

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't think Clayton adds any value at all.  The Eagles really don't have much use for him.  He falls under Kevin and Reggie on the depth chart, and this team doesn't need more mediocre WR's.

Clayton might be an upgrade over Baskett.  MIGHT.

Agreed, he has shown nothing since his rookie season.  All he would be is a throw in, maybe you catch lightning in a bottle and he regains his rookie form.  Though that is about as likely as the Sixers making it to the NBA finals. 

[Feva]

I don't think Clayton adds any value at all.  The Eagles really don't have much use for him.  He falls under Kevin and Reggie on the depth chart, and this team doesn't need more mediocre WR's.

Clayton might be an upgrade over Baskett.  MIGHT.

Totally agree.  He'd add as much value as Kelly Holcomb did last year... basically adding nothing to the position.

As far as the 2nd rounder for Lito... as much as I know they won't... I'd just rather they keep him.  UNLESS... this extra 2nd rounder is going to be used to sweeten the pot for Williams or Boldin.

[ice grillin you]

the eagles should just admit their failings and throw some money lito's way to make him happy and keep him...but they wont do that because that would admit they grossly mis read what his value was and that throwing a truck load of money at samuel was probably a mistake...but joe banner does not admit mistakes

[SD_Eagle5]

I'm glad I used foresight by adding the word 'throw in' so when I hear 'he blows', 'he drops too many passes', 'he's no better than Baskett' I have myself covered.

[Feva]

the eagles should just admit their failings and throw some money lito's way to make him happy and keep him...but they wont do that because that would admit they grossly mis read what his value was and that throwing a truck load of money at samuel was probably a mistake...but joe banner does not admit mistakes

Exactly... that's why I say if they can't package him and land a stud WR (or even DE during the Jared Allen rumors)... they should toss him some hush money and keep him on the roster.  It's still completely possible to smooth things over enough with Lito and have a monster secondary, but as you said, that would have to include some humbling on the FO's part and we know that just ain't gonna happen.  Instead, they've painted themselves into a corner to where the option of an unknown in a 2nd round pick (where they've been terrible drafters. btw) is the better option than having 3 pro-bowl caliber CB's on the team.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't think the Eagles overestimated Lito's value they just screwed themselves by making it known he was available after they signed Samuel. 

[ice grillin you]

they had no choice in that matter...it was either sign samuel first or lose him...


their problem was getting personal with lito because he wants a new contract and essentially sending him home...they should have taken a public stance that even after signing samuel lito would be kept...how believble that would have been is up for debate but it would have  been better than basically kicking him off the team

[Father Demon]

the eagles should just admit their failings and throw some money lito's way to make him happy and keep him...

I must be in bizarro world, because I agree with IGY on that ^^^

but they wont do that because that would admit they grossly mis read what his value was and that throwing a truck load of money at samuel was probably a mistake...but joe banner does not admit mistakes

Wait..  there it is..  all is fine in the world.  The conspiracy theory of Banner willing to do harm to the billion dollar franchise in order to save a little face.  OK..  now I know things are still true to form.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I honestly don't think Lito is worth that much more than his contract, if anything more.  It might be a different story if he could stay healthy a whole season, but I give it the big hell no on re-upping his deal.

I think keeping him at his current deal would be the pipe dream - MUCH better than getting a 2nd round pick back for him.  But, that ship sailed when the Eagles signed Samuel.  Lito wants to stack some cheddar, and he'll get to do so somewhere else.

[Sgt PSN]

I don't think Clayton adds any value at all.  The Eagles really don't have much use for him.  He falls under Kevin and Reggie on the depth chart, and this team doesn't need more mediocre WR's.

Clayton might be an upgrade over Baskett.  MIGHT.

Troof.  Trade a player who missed significant time in recent years because of injury for another player who missed significant time in recent years because of injury.  Makes perfect sense.  

[ice grillin you]

the eagles should just admit their failings and throw some money lito's way to make him happy and keep him...

I must be in bizarro world, because I agree with IGY on that ^^^

but they wont do that because that would admit they grossly mis read what his value was and that throwing a truck load of money at samuel was probably a mistake...but joe banner does not admit mistakes

Wait..  there it is..  all is fine in the world.  The conspiracy theory of Banner willing to do harm to the billion dollar franchise in order to save a little face.  OK..  now I know things are still true to form.

harming the fanchise to him would be hurting the bottom line...so not keeping lito does nothing in his mind to harm the franchise...banner is full of three things...himself money and shtein...in that order

[Father Demon]

I'm never in the "give more money" camp, because a contract is a contract, and the player shouldn't have signed it if he didn't want it.  But, in this case, it can be argued that it's warranted solely because I can't see a situation where the Eagles get value out of trading him.  His value to the NFL, especially when it's so well known he is moving, may only be worth a 2nd, but to the Eagles his value should be higher.

Someone else said it, but if the Eagles can't get what what they consider a fair value for him, then they shouldn't trade him.  If they get what they think is fair (which is probably a long way off for what the buyers think is fair thanks to the "Lito is for sale" announcements), then trade him.

But it should in no way be a situation where Lito has to leave no matter what.

And that goes back to my money statement.  They did a bad thing by putting a placard on his head, and if they want to keep him they should do a good thing and bump him a bit to show that after all of this, they still value him as a player and team member.

[SunMo]

they will never do the "give more money" thing because as soon as they do, Sheldon will be up their ass

[ice grillin you]

banner is not gonna cake off a guy who has made it known that hes bitter about his contract and after he gave that guys replacement 20 million bucks guaranteed....EVER

[Father Demon]

Didn't say I think they will, I said I can see the argument of why it might make sense.

And I agree on the whole can of worms thing.