2008 Point & Laugh at the skins thread

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, January 08, 2008, 09:54:58 AM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: SunMo on April 22, 2008, 01:38:45 PM
i have it saved on my DVR...not worth the time?

Let's put it this way.  I have "Death Race 2000" on my DVR, and I am the obvious winner here.

SD_Eagle5

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3358557

QuoteHow serious are the Cincinnati Bengals about not giving in to Chad Johnson's trade demands?

Serious enough to swat away an offer from the Washington taterskins that could have netted the Bengals two first round draft picks, team and league sources said.

The taterskins offered this year's first round pick, No. 21 overall, and a conditional third rounder in 2009 that could escalate to a first rounder if Johnson and the taterskins hit certain performance levels, the sources said.
It was not the first time the taterskins approached the Bengals about a deal but it was the first significant proposal.

The Bengals have not only rejected the taterskins, but two other NFC East suitors -- the Dallas Cowboys and Philadelphia Eagles -- have been informed that there has been no change in the team's position that Johnson will not be traded.
The Bengals have noted to those suitors that Johnson has been the "second-highest paid receiver" in the NFL during the past three years, indignant about suggestions that Johnson also wants a new contract, the sources said.

Trading Johnson also would mean Cincinnati would take an $8 million salary cap hit, but that amount could be split over the next two years. Additionally, as one anonymous owner told ESPN.com, "There's nothing wrong with dead money. It's cash already paid and it's cash back in your pocket that you don't have to spend, especially with the [high] amount of everyone's salary cap these days."
Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.

cj2112

That is amazing.  What is Cincy thinking?  Two first rounders for someone who promises to never play for your organization ever again?  Morons.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: cj2112 on April 22, 2008, 02:01:42 PM
That is amazing.  What is Cincy thinking?  Two first rounders for someone who promises to never play for your organization ever again?  Morons.

Well, I think they're assuming he won't hit those performance levels with Jason Campbell throwing to him.

4and26

The organization that has the most trouble controlling it's players it telling their most talented play to keep his word and sit out....somehow very ironic.

I do hope that if he doesn't show up they really do make him sit out....

MDS

$nyder clearly still trying to run things into the ground in dc
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PhillyPhreak54

Thanks to Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis for being stupid fargfaces.

Not only would it suck to see Johnson as a taterskin, but the filth those homo's on ES would spew about getting him would be disgusting.

MDS

Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

Cerevant

The Bengals are trying to take the stand that the Eagles tried and failed - if you are under contract, you aren't going to become a free agent by whining.

The league is going to have to address this issue eventually.  Perhaps a draft pick penalty for teams that sign a player that was under contract.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Rome


Cerevant

Team has player locked up in long term deal.
Another player at the same position gets a big money deal.
Agent whispers in players ear that they should be getting more money.
Player starts whining to the press, sits out of camp, does sit-ups in the driveway, etc.
Team cuts player and player gets a free-agent deal.

The Eagles tried suspending, then benching TO, but the player's association basically told the Eagles that they had to cut TO if they weren't going to play him.

What's in it for the team?  You can't force a player to play for a team they don't want to play for.  They need to reduce the incentive for a player to cause problems with their current team by eliminating the certainty of a fat deal once they are cut loose.

An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Rome

I understand the premise.  I just don't see how the league can penalize a team for signing someone who is an unrestricted free agent because of a mutual agreement between him and his former team.

I think the better course of action would be to provide a compensatory selection in the draft based on the player's salary from the new team, personally.

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

Quote from: Rome on April 23, 2008, 08:32:27 AM
I understand the premise.  I just don't see how the league can penalize a team for signing someone who is an unrestricted free agent because of a mutual agreement between him and his former team.

I have a problem with that "mutual agreement" being made under duress.  The Eagles basically got an ultimatum from the league on TO: play him or cut him.  Benching him (as a punishment for being a distraction) was not an option.

It will be interesting to see how the Bengals situation plays out.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Beermonkey

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 23, 2008, 02:45:19 PM
it should have been bubba

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx 71#s=71&f=1348&t=2389649&p=1

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not familiar with the poster that died but if I go out, I guess getting bit by a grizzly is one the ways I'd prefer. Second only to wrestling a shark to the death.

Death would be too good for Bubba, having rats chew off his arms, legs & penis would be preferred.