With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

[Magical_Retard]

NEW TRADE CHART AN EFFORT BY EAGLES TO MOVE UP?Mike Florio, April 18, 2008

In response to the emergence of a new proposed trade chart, a league source tells us that, in his opinion and based on discussions with most of the other NFL teams, the proposal is the direct result of the Philadelphia Eagles to make it easier to trade up from the No. 19 overall spot in the 2008 draft.

"The whole thing sounds like an elaborate ruse," the source said.

It's not clear who the Eagles would be targeting via a move, or how high they'd like to go. If the Eagles are indeed behind the creation of the new chart, the fact that the first four picks dropped in value and the rest of the first-rounders increased suggests that they'd like to get into the top four — and possibly all the way to No. 1.

Moreover, if the Eagles are trying to pull off a move up, there's only one other team that needs to agree with the chart, and that's the team with whom the Eagles would be trading.

Besides, the reality is that, if a team that wants to trade down can't find a partner under the existing trade chart, then maybe a new chart really is needed.

Or why shouldn't both teams say "the hell with the chart," if they so choose? The pick is worth whatever the team who'll trade it thinks it worth. Does anyone really think that the Tuna gives a flying fish about whether he'll be criticized from taking less than what the Jimmy Johnson trade chart dictates he should receive?

Regardless, the suspicion that is being directed at the Eagles confirms our belief that any meaningful change to the trade chart can come only after the draft and before the start of the regular season, since during that period of time no team can be accused of trying to stack the deck in support of its own short-term interests.

probably a stupid question but what is a trade chart?

[ice grillin you]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

[SD_Eagle5]

Here's the new one I'm assuming the Eagles created:

1st Rd  2nd Rd 3rd Rd 4th Rd 5th Rd 6th Rd 7th Rd
1 2,000 33 570 65 265 97 112 129 43 161 27 193 14.2
2 1,900 34 560 66 260 98 108 130 42 162 26.6 194 13.8
3 1,825 35 550 67 255 99 104 131 41 163 26.2 195 13.4
4 1,750 36 540 68 250 100 100 132 40 164 25.8 196 13
5 1,675 37 530 69 245 101 96 133 39.5 165 25.4 197 12.6
6 1,635 38 520 70 240 102 92 134 39 166 25 198 12.2
7 1,570 39 510 71 235 103 88 135 38.5 167 24.6 199 11.8
8 1,505 40 500 72 230 104 86 136 38 168 24.2 200 11.4
9 1,440 41 490 73 225 105 84 137 37.5 169 23.8 201 11
10 1,375 42 480 74 220 106 82 138 37 170 23.4 202 10.6
11 1,320 43 470 75 215 107 80 139 36.5 171 23 203 10.2
12 1,275 44 460 76 210 108 78 140 36 172 22.6 204 9.8
13 1,230 45 450 77 205 109 76 141 35.5 173 22.2 205 9.4
14 1,185 46 440 78 200 110 74 142 35 174 21.8 206 9
15 1,140 47 430 79 195 111 72 143 34.5 175 21.4 207 8.6
16 1,110 48 420 80 190 112 70 144 34 176 21 208 8.2
17 1,070 49 410 81 185 113 68 145 33.5 177 20.6 209 7.8
18 1,040 50 400 82 180 114 66 146 33 178 20.2 210 7.4
19 1,010 51 390 83 175 115 64 147 32.6 179 19.8 211 7
20  980 52 380 84 170 116 62 148 32.2 180 19.4 212 6.6
21  945 53 370 85 165 117 60 149 31.8 181 19 213 6.2
22  920 54 360 86 160 118 58 150 31.4 182 18.6 214 5.8
23  895 55 350 87 155 119 56 151 31 183 18.2 215 5.4
24  870 56 340 88 150 120 54 152 30.6 184 17.8 216 5
25  845 57 330 89 145 121 52 153 30.2 185 17.4 217 4.6
26  820 58 320 90 140 122 50 154 29.8 186 17 218 4.2
27  795 59 310 91 136 123 49 155 29.4 187 16.6 219 3.8
28  770 60 300 92 132 124 48 156 29 188 16.2 220 3.4
29  745 61 292 93 128 125 47 157 28.6 189 15.8 221 3
30  720 62 284 94 124 126 46 158 28.2 190 15.4 222 2.6
31  695 63 276 95 120 127 45 159 27.8 191 15 223 2.3
32  670 64 270 96 116 128 44 160 27.4 192 14.6 224 2

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/15/new-draft-trade-chart/

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It's hilarious that PFT is accusing the Eagles of "fixing" the chart to their own benefit.  It's not like every team is given a chart to which they must adhere.  In fact, I would think every team would create a chart every year based on how they value the picks in relation to their own.

PFT is a fun site, but Florio really is over the top more often than not.

[ice grillin you]

PFT is a fun site, but Florio really is over the top more often than not.

ha...ya think...it might as well be the onion of pro football sites

[Drunkmasterflex]

How bout this scenario: A team wants #19 and Lito in order to move up for Albert...do you do it?

No, unless they include at least their 3rd.

[ice grillin you]

it depends on what litos value is...id rather trade up for albert with lito and 19 before i traded lito for a second and a fifth

[BigEd76]

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[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The Raiders traded a 2nd and a 5th for DeAngelo Hall.  Apparently, he is widely viewed as a superior overall value to Lito, so Lito's value is probably more like a mid 2nd.

[ice grillin you]

theres not a trade chart for trading players like there is draft picks....especially when youre talking about draft day trades

[Seabiscuit36]

The Raiders traded a 2nd and a 5th for DeAngelo Hall.  Apparently, he is widely viewed as a superior icehole, so Lito's value is probably more than that other midget.

[ice grillin you]

he also commanded more money than lito and in fact altho he probably would like a re do lito has never publically stated he wants a new deal at all

[Drunkmasterflex]

it depends on what litos value is...id rather trade up for albert with lito and 19 before i traded lito for a second and a fifth

I don't think trading Lito to move up in the draft is a good value, unless they get something else in return.  Basically you would be giving up Lito and a 1st for Brandon Albert.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm not too much in favor of an OT in round 1 right now. I want some farging playmakers. I also would love to get Josh Barrett... in the 2nd/3rd.

Keeping Lito is an option and if the dont get what they want they will keep him and say that they intended on keeping him all along. Then when Lito holds out or cries about his contract, they'll get snippy with him.

They should keep Lito...I know he is hurt alot but shtein, its a need to have 3 CBs. If one has to be dealt I would rather deal Brown. Or pay them all enough to make 'em happy and shut up and win games.

[ice grillin you]

it depends on what litos value is...id rather trade up for albert with lito and 19 before i traded lito for a second and a fifth

I don't think trading Lito to move up in the draft is a good value, unless they get something else in return.  Basically you would be giving up Lito and a 1st for Brandon Albert.

it all depends on whether you think albert (or whoever they would trade up for) is worth it...for me hes the best at his position in the draft....starts at LG next year from day one...is a huge upgrade over herremans and is a pro bowl caliber guard for next five six seven years