With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

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ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 25, 2008, 04:55:36 PM
You're completely missing the point.  Don't the Eagles also have a dire need for a "return guy" anyway?

yes which is one of the reasons why hes the best wr option in the first round...didnt i just say that?

if your main concern is return man theres plenty of guys you can take on day two for that
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reese125

I think your stretching quite a bit for Jackson being a top flight potential receiver at 5'9. His best bet to excel would be in a Wes Welker role on the Patriots, or a Mike Martz system.

In the Eagles system, he would be sorely under utilized in the passing game. Return game..no question..but would they throw a pick out there just for that?

ice grillin you

Quote from: reese125 on March 25, 2008, 05:10:20 PM
but would they throw a pick out there just for that?


no they wouldnt

his athleticism alone gives him a chance to be a great wr...but as i said the other day none of these guys are locks to be great wr's however desean gets the nod because of his athleticism and return ability

if you dont think theres a wr worthy of the 19th pick then thats fine
if you hate desean jackson thats fine to

but munson seems to believe hes a return man that might play wr and i was trying to explain its the other way around...hes a highly rated wr in this draft who can also be a great return man...hes not rated in the first round because of his return game 
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Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 25, 2008, 04:54:08 PM
Quote from: Munson on March 25, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
I'd rather not spend a first round pick on a return guy who has "potential" to be a good NFL WR.


this is where youre confused and get it backwards

hes a wr with huge potential who is already a return man

as opposed to other wr's with less of a ceiling who will never be return men

if you dont want a wr at all then thats totally understandable and a fair point...but if you go wr at 19 i dont see how you dont go desean if youre the eagles

I completely agree that IF they go WR at 19, then yes, Jackson should be the pick.

But no, i don't not want them drafting a WR that early in the draft unless it's a guy who is one of the studs of the draft...like a Calvin Johnson last year, or Roy Williams when he came out, or Andre Johnson, etc....guys that are seen as coming right in and being good WR's. And there really aren't those types of players at WR in this draft. I just do not trust this team with developing any WR's anymore...the offense has apparently proven too complex for rookie WR's to get it. Reggie Brown's the closest they've come and he's pretty average.

And I don't want them drafting in the first round with the thinking of "at least we'll improve the return game". I'd rather them wait til later in the draft to get a guy who returns kicks. There are plenty of guys in this draft that will be worlds better then Reno Mahe. Use the first round pick on something else that could use improvement....a young safety for when Dawk leaves, trade up to get one of the star DE's if you can...something along those lines.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 25, 2008, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 25, 2008, 04:55:36 PM
You're completely missing the point.  Don't the Eagles also have a dire need for a "return guy" anyway?

yes which is one of the reasons why hes the best wr option in the first round...didnt i just say that?

if your main concern is return man theres plenty of guys you can take on day two for that

My post was directed at Munson, actually.

reese125

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no they wouldnt

his athleticism alone gives him a chance to be a great wr...but as i said the other day none of these guys are locks to be great wr's however desean gets the nod because of his athleticism and return ability

if you dont think theres a wr worthy of the 19th pick then thats fine
if you hate desean jackson thats fine to

but munson seems to believe hes a return man that might play wr and i was trying to explain its the other way around...hes a highly rated wr in this draft who can also be a great return man...hes not rated in the first round because of his return game


I dont hate on Jackson one bit, as a matter of fact...any player with that kind of athletic ability I respect

I just dont see the WR potential in him on this team like you do, and mainly because of his size going up against the taller corners in the league.

There are stud WR at 6'0, but 5'9 is a huge disadvantage in the NFL, and a liability blocking on the edge. I think he would be situational at best here in Philly

Munson

Okay I see where the split here is then.

IGY and others think he'll contribute more at WR then I do. I think he has a chance to, but I just really don't trust Reid and the coaches with young WR's much.

Returner is my main concern, in which case I think they can get one later in the draft.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Rome

I think it's cute that any of you think for a second that the Eagles are going to draft a receiver at 19 especially if there's an offensive or defensive lineman available there (which there will be - count on it).

Magical_Retard

Quote from: Rome on March 25, 2008, 06:15:15 PM
I think it's cute that any of you think for a second that the Eagles are going to draft a receiver at 19 especially if there's an offensive or defensive lineman available there (which there will be - count on it).

actually considering they tried to sign moss and trade for fitz, they might actually be desperate enough for a WR that they give him a try.

or maybe thats me being delusional.
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Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 25, 2008, 06:34:33 PM
or maybe thats me being delusional.

Trying to predict what player the Eagles will draft is dilusional, so don't sweat it.

stalker

Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 25, 2008, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: Rome on March 25, 2008, 06:15:15 PM
I think it's cute that any of you think for a second that the Eagles are going to draft a receiver at 19 especially if there's an offensive or defensive lineman available there (which there will be - count on it).

actually considering they tried to sign moss and trade for fitz, they might actually be desperate enough for a WR that they give him a try.

or maybe thats me being delusional.

Signing Moss or trading for Fitzgerald does not show desparation.  Reaching for a starter at 19 does.
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Rome

The Eagles have their starters at WR.  They think Curtis & Brown are "fine".  The only reason they went after Moss is because they knew he wasn't going anywhere.

It was a PR stunt, plain and simple.  And they never had any intention of going after Fitzgerald either.

Brown & Curtis are the starters and Avant, Baskett & Lewis are the backups.  They might sign someone to replace 3-4-5 but anyone hoping for anything more is deluding themselves.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Rome on March 25, 2008, 10:46:39 PM
The only reason they went after Moss is because they knew he wasn't going anywhere.

Wrong.

Quote from: Rome on March 25, 2008, 10:46:39 PM
And they never had any intention of going after Fitzgerald either.

Right.

troyhstewart

QuoteEagles | Molden to work out for team
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ice grillin you

thats weird i was reading up on that hemphill cat last week...hes tall as shtein...i wanna say 6-6
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