With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

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The BIGSTUD

I consider Steve Smith the best WR in the NFL, so I highly disagree. He may have the same build and size, but Steve Smith is highly dominant. Jackson has never consistently dominated DBs in the passing game.
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PhillyPhreak54

Smith was a PR/KR who had to earn a WR job with Carolina. He was a 3rd round pick, who only played 2 years at Div I level. He made a name for himself.

I'm not agreeing with the comparison, but you can't discount it either.

The BIGSTUD

Well if Jackson can become the next Steve Smith, then James Hardy could just as easily become the next Plaxico Burress.
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Seabiscuit36

Quote from: King Cole on March 23, 2008, 10:50:41 PM
Well if Jackson can become the next Steve Smith, then James Hardy could just as easily become the next Plaxico Burress.
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Phreak, thats exactly what im comparing him to.  Jackson is crazy like smith, he's looked at as a PR/KR guy at first with skills to learn WR.  He's more gifted than what Steve Smith had at his point, the question about him is his drive, does he want to be the best, and take the time to learn the trade. 

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The BIGSTUD

I don't proclaim to be a draft expert, nor do I claim to have watched Jackson for every game he's played. I haven't. But I did watch a good share of Cal games over the past couple years, and he never really stood out to me as that dominant guy. Has he for you? Maybe he has, I don't know. To each his own.

It seemed to me like he'd have one really good game, and then he'd be near invisible for about 3/4 games. I don't want a receiver who isn't going to show up week to week.

Maybe there isn't that guy available this year. All I know is what I see, and Hardy was a FORCE in the red zone. He pulled down a ton of TDs this year, and that was the issue with the Eagles' offense.

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Seabiscuit36

His game is very similar Cole, all predicated on speed.  Smith was an average receiver coming out of college, and had to spend time in juco.  Jackson has elite speed, and needs to learn the WR postion. 
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ice grillin you

Quote from: King Cole on March 24, 2008, 01:45:03 AM
I don't proclaim to be a draft expert, nor do I claim to have watched Jackson for every game he's played. I haven't. But I did watch a good share of Cal games over the past couple years, and he never really stood out to me as that dominant guy. Has he for you? Maybe he has, I don't know. To each his own.

It seemed to me like he'd have one really good game, and then he'd be near invisible for about 3/4 games. I don't want a receiver who isn't going to show up week to week.

Maybe there isn't that guy available this year. All I know is what I see, and Hardy was a FORCE in the red zone. He pulled down a ton of TDs this year, and that was the issue with the Eagles' offense.


limas sweed is slow as crap (actually reminds me a lot of mike williams)...james hardy beats women and hasnt run a pattern since pop warner...none of these wr's is elite (including jackson)or they would be top ten locks...and im not even saying they should take a wr but if they do i think desean jackson is the clear pick...id rather go down swinging for once and take the guy with the upside the crazy athlete for once instead of the solid workmalike player that he eagles always seem to love...i want trent coles not victor abiamiris
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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2008, 08:32:30 AM
limas sweed is slow as crap (actually reminds me a lot of mike williams)...james hardy beats women and hasnt run a pattern since pop warner...none of these wr's is elite (including jackson)or they would be top ten locks...and im not even saying they should take a wr but if they do i think desean jackson is the clear pick...id rather go down swinging for once and take the guy with the upside the crazy athlete for once instead of the solid workmalike player that he eagles always seem to love...i want trent coles not victor abiamiris

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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 24, 2008, 08:32:30 AM
limas sweed is slow as crap (actually reminds me a lot of mike williams)...james hardy beats women and hasnt run a pattern since pop warner...none of these wr's is elite (including jackson)or they would be top ten locks...and im not even saying they should take a wr but if they do i think desean jackson is the clear pick...id rather go down swinging for once and take the guy with the upside the crazy athlete for once instead of the solid workmalike player that he eagles always seem to love...i want trent coles not victor abiamiris

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The BIGSTUD

Quote from: Rome on March 24, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
Steve Smith is the best receiver in the NFL?

What the farg?

People forget how damn good he is after Carolina's struggles lately. When Delhomme gets good protection and his healthy, Steve Smith is damn near unstoppable. He gets open with such ease. Remember that 2005 playoffs? Everyone knew exactly where Carolina was going and still couldn't stop it.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Smith, whether he's the best or not, is a game-changing stud wide receiver.

He was drafted in the 3rd round due to concerns about his size making most scouts think he'd be stuck on special teams his whole career.

DeSean Jackson out of school makes Smith look like Jason Avant, so if you like Smith, you should be rooting hard for the Eagles to do whatever it takes to nab Jackson.

ice grillin you

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There was so much reaction to the trade last year with Dallas, but now step back and look at the trade. Dallas acquired linebacker Anthony Spencer with the 26th pick overall. The Eagles moved into the second round and took quarterback Kevin Kolb, then came back in the third round and selected Bradley. A later draft pick on safety C.J. Gaddis didn't work out, so the end net/net is Spencer vs. Kolb and Bradley.

I don't know much about Spencer, other than a story I read the other day suggesting that he needs to be better in year two than in year one. I know that Bradley looked like the real deal last year and is going to have a chance to start this season. I know that Kolb was extremely impressive in the preseason and that he appears to have a very bright future in front of him.

Now, the other point of view from that trade – other than the one that expressed concern about trading with the hated Cowboys – is that the Eagles bypassed immediate help by moving out of the first round and then by selecting Kolb in round two. Looking back, I'm not sure there were players on the board who proved to be difference makers. Chicago tight end Greg Olsen is a fine player, but is he that much better than Brent Celek, taken in round five?


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