With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

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Munson

I'd rather not draft a 1st round WR on the basis of "if he can't contribute as a WR in the future, at least we got a return man".


It's teams that spend first round picks on guys like that who don't win SB's.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Magical_Retard

Quote from: Munson on March 23, 2008, 01:50:33 AM


It's teams that spend first round picks on guys like that who don't win SB's.

the eagles have not won a superbowl.

it would be smart to stop worrying about what other teams do and try to upgrade based on what this team needs.

i think we all agree that none of the WRs in the 1st round might contribute right away or even if they do would not be significant upgrades. ok so then you take jackson, bring him in to the offense, but at least right away he can electrify the return game.
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ice grillin you

the eagles dont win superbowls and dont draft talented guys in the first round so im not sure what you mean


plus you dont draft any guy in the first round with the pre conceived notion that he "cant contribute" thats actually laughable that you would even say that...but you draft players in any round that give you more options to succeed than players that dont


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ice grillin you

Quote from: Magical_Retard on March 23, 2008, 02:15:56 AM
Quote from: Munson on March 23, 2008, 01:50:33 AM


It's teams that spend first round picks on guys like that who don't win SB's.

the eagles have not won a superbowl.

it would be smart to stop worrying about what other teams do and try to upgrade based on what this team needs.

i think we all agree that none of the WRs in the 1st round might contribute right away or even if they do would not be significant upgrades. ok so then you take jackson, bring him in to the offense, but at least right away he can electrify the return game.


100% correct
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Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2008, 02:18:39 AM
the eagles dont win superbowls and dont draft talented guys in the first round so im not sure what you mean


plus you dont draft any guy in the first round with the pre conceived notion that he "cant contribute" thats actually laughable that you would even say that...but you draft players in any round that give you more options to succeed than players that dont


keep an eye out for those friday elections son

Alright you do know I was kidding in that thread right? Like "my 21st birthday is on friday, it'd be nice if it was election day too so I could not have class that day". I guess dry humor aint the way to go around here.

All I'm saying is if they're going to draft a WR in the first round, I want it to be a WR that they can say "alright this guy will contribute as a WR for sure", not an "oh well if it turns out he can't be an NFL WR, at least we got a return man"....No. That's what you do in the 3rd round (Brian Westbrook), or the 4th round....you don't draft a WR in the 1st round based on the fact that he could contribute as a return man. That worked out real well for the Dolphins.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

first of all you werent kidding youre are that stupid and young


secondly ted ginn has a very impressive year on a bad team...a better year than any eagle rookie since 2002...so why you would bring him up is baffling


thirdly there isnt a wr in this draft that you can say will contribute for sure...but at the head of that pack is desean jackson...PLUS hes a lock good return man...so if hes one of the best wr prospects or the best AND a guaranteed good return man he should be taken above the wr's behind him who are one dimensional
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igy gettin it done like warrick

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NGM

IGY you're drunk.  Plus I'd take Limas Sweed over all of them.  Roy Williams clone. 
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ice grillin you

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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 23, 2008, 03:06:56 AM
first of all you werent kidding youre are that stupid and young


secondly ted ginn has a very impressive year on a bad team...a better year than any eagle rookie since 2002...so why you would bring him up is baffling


thirdly there isnt a wr in this draft that you can say will contribute for sure...but at the head of that pack is desean jackson...PLUS hes a lock good return man...so if hes one of the best wr prospects or the best AND a guaranteed good return man he should be taken above the wr's behind him who are one dimensional

No, you just think I am because you're retarded.

I'll repeat myself...you don't draft a guy in the 1st round with the thought process of "If he doesn't work out at his position, he can be a return man"...You just do not spend a 1st round pick on a guy like that.

I'd really hate for them to add a WR in the first 3 rounds of the draft at this point. If they're adding a WR in needs to be through trade and he needs to be a known commodity,  and a stud. Not a rookie WR who may or may not reach his potential upside as a WR and oh yeah, he can return kicks. That's not what first round picks are for. Especially at 19. I no longer trust this team to draft guys who "have upside" at WR...either they draft a stud WR (which this draft has none of), or they stay away.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: NGM on March 23, 2008, 03:46:22 AM
IGY you're drunk.  Plus I'd take Limas Sweed over all of them.  Roy Williams clone. 
lol.. more like Todd Pinkston Clone
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NGM

Limas Sweed measured in at 6'4 216 at the Combine.

Todd Pinkston, as of the last measurables I could find, was 6'3 180.  I don't get it.
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Seabiscuit36

Quote from: NGM on March 23, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Limas Sweed measured in at 6'4 216 at the Combine.

Todd Pinkston, as of the last measurables I could find, was 6'3 180.  I don't get it.
Hes soft like Pinkston, imo he shouldt go higher than 2nd round. 
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NGM

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 23, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Quote from: NGM on March 23, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Limas Sweed measured in at 6'4 216 at the Combine.

Todd Pinkston, as of the last measurables I could find, was 6'3 180.  I don't get it.
Hes soft like Pinkston, imo he shouldt go higher than 2nd round. 

Gotcha. 
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The BIGSTUD

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 22, 2008, 10:51:22 PM
later?...after the green bay game id say it already is later...you cant miss on a return guy...where as you can whiff on a wr very easily as the eagles have proved time and again...id rather have desean who has the biggest upside of any wr and if he sucks hes still a given as a return man...the other guys suck as wr's the entire pick is down the drain

Later in the draft I meant. Desean Jackson is a one of a kind return man, but you can still get a very solid return man later in the draft. This draft is going to have a bunch. You have a point, but I just don't think Jackson is going to be a very good WR in this league. I like Sweed's size and Hardy's size. I want a big target for McNabb. Someone who can go up and get a ball and is a nice end zone target.
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