Discuss: Concrete Ballin'

Started by Cerevant, March 13, 2008, 06:14:19 AM

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hbionic

March 13 2008, 2:36:07 pm   The sausage played the Orton Robo-Ponies, and the Orton Robo-Ponies won, 5 - 2   
March 13 2008, 12:49:39 pm The Poopies? played the Orton Robo-Ponies, and the Orton Robo-Ponies won, 3 - 0   
March 13 2008, 12:29:02 pm The nitz played the Orton Robo-Ponies, and the nitz won, 14 - 0   
March 13 2008, 11:23:00 am The Lancaster shtein Sprea played the Orton Robo-Ponies, and the Lancaster shtein Sprea won, 7 - 0   
March 13 2008, 10:52:18 am  The MeanGreen played the Orton Robo-Ponies, and the Orton Robo-Ponies won, 7 - 3   
March 13 2008, 9:56:28 am    The Orton Robo-Ponies played the Seachickens, and the Seachickens won, 7 - 0


I'm 3-3.  :(
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


Munson

Quote from: Cerevant on March 13, 2008, 06:24:18 AM
I deleted a bunch of accounts that were probably having trouble logging in because of the e-mail issue I described above.  If you can't log in, try re-registering.

Munson, are you still having trouble logging in?  You shouldn't have been seeing the problem the others were seeing.



Meh, I just went ahead and created a different account. Just delete Munson.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Munson

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nitz 0
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

hbionic

ok...so...10 wins is the maximum you get. With a 10-game win streak, your hype goes up 11 pts every 5 minutes.

I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


Cerevant

Quote from: Diomedes on March 13, 2008, 08:55:15 PM
Experience is extremely hard to get.  For each game I win, I lose three.  Is there another way to gain experience?  What would it mean to gain a level?

Right now, a level just gets you a bump in the Hype/Streak/OTA/Injuries caps.

Playing games is the only way to get experience, although that might change.  Maybe I'll give and extra 10 XP or something for completing a gauntlet ("Playoff Run" - Maybe I'll make it 8 games).  I have to figure out how to code it first :)

Quote from: hbionic on March 14, 2008, 06:24:08 AM
ok...so...10 wins is the maximum you get. With a 10-game win streak, your hype goes up 11 pts every 5 minutes.

Your Hype goes up Streak + 1 every 5 minutes.  I put the +1 in so you wouldn't get stuck when you have 0 Streak.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Suggestion: it would seem to be extremely difficult to gain experience if you can lose it when others challenge you and win.

PoopyfaceMcGee

P.S.  One hype every 5 minutes?  I understand you're trying to right the wrongs of FC, but that's a bit extreme.

phattymatty

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:10:42 AM
P.S.  One hype every 5 minutes?  I understand you're trying to right the wrongs of FC, but that's a bit extreme.

no really.  that mans you only have to wait 50 min. to play again.

phattymatty

#53
hbionic is tearing me a new one.  he's shut me out 3 in a row, with the last being like 52-0.  the first 2 were not much better.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on March 14, 2008, 08:28:09 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:10:42 AM
P.S.  One hype every 5 minutes?  I understand you're trying to right the wrongs of FC, but that's a bit extreme.

no really.  that mans you only have to wait 50 min. to play again.

Yes, but you have to wait 1 hour and 40 minutes to train again only once.  Weak.

Cerevant

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:10:42 AM
P.S.  One hype every 5 minutes?  I understand you're trying to right the wrongs of FC, but that's a bit extreme.

It is one + streak, so from 1 to 11 every 5 minutes.

With that you can play one game / hour, or train every two with a zero streak.

I'm thinking about increasing the Hype cap, but increasing the cost of training.  That way you can play more but I don't want to unbalance the game with power training.  I'm trying to find something else to do while you are playing, so you don't have to sit around twiddling your thumbs if you want to play.   Suggestions are welcome, I'm going to think on what I'm going to do with OTAs today.

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:06:58 AM
Suggestion: it would seem to be extremely difficult to gain experience if you can lose it when others challenge you and win.

That's why I put the training room in.  If you are trying to preserve a streak and work on training or whatever, you don't have to play (or be played).  I do think I need to tweak the experience a bit, maybe two points for a win and one for a loss or something like that.  Maybe 2 points for a win when you initiate, 1 point for when the opponent initiates (since you are spending the energy).  

Thoughts?

Quote from: phattymatty on March 14, 2008, 08:28:53 AM
hbionic is tearing me a new one.  he's shut me out 3 in a row, with the last being like 52-0.  the first 2 were not much better.

hbionic has some kick-ass stats.  Either he has been training his butt off, or found a way to cheat.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Seabiscuit36

Quote from: Cerevant on March 14, 2008, 08:41:39 AM

Quote from: phattymatty on March 14, 2008, 08:28:53 AM
hbionic is tearing me a new one.  he's shut me out 3 in a row, with the last being like 52-0.  the first 2 were not much better.

hbionic has some kick-ass stats.  Either he has been training his butt off, or found a way to cheat.
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Diomedes

I think it's a good idea to give the winner of a game he did not initiate a premium on experience.  It would give people a reason to stay on the gridiron more, which would make it easier to find opponents (who might otherwise be hunkered down in the training room).  It would also serve to raise the stakes a bit for the initiating team, and reward players who beef up their defense so that offense-heavy teams don't run away with the ball (pun very much intended and most awesome).
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on March 14, 2008, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:10:42 AM
P.S.  One hype every 5 minutes?  I understand you're trying to right the wrongs of FC, but that's a bit extreme.

It is one + streak, so from 1 to 11 every 5 minutes.

With that you can play one game / hour, or train every two with a zero streak.

I'm thinking about increasing the Hype cap, but increasing the cost of training.  That way you can play more but I don't want to unbalance the game with power training.  I'm trying to find something else to do while you are playing, so you don't have to sit around twiddling your thumbs if you want to play.   Suggestions are welcome, I'm going to think on what I'm going to do with OTAs today.

Quote from: FastFreddie on March 14, 2008, 07:06:58 AM
Suggestion: it would seem to be extremely difficult to gain experience if you can lose it when others challenge you and win.

That's why I put the training room in.  If you are trying to preserve a streak and work on training or whatever, you don't have to play (or be played).  I do think I need to tweak the experience a bit, maybe two points for a win and one for a loss or something like that.  Maybe 2 points for a win when you initiate, 1 point for when the opponent initiates (since you are spending the energy). 

Thoughts?

So, your hype and streak ARE not at stake if someone else challenges you?

There just has to be a better way to advance, even if you want to avoid making it a machine like FC.

Cerevant

Quote from: Diomedes on March 14, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
I think it's a good idea to give the winner of a game he did not initiate a premium on experience.  It would give people a reason to stay on the gridiron more, which would make it easier to find opponents (who might otherwise be hunkered down in the training room).  It would also serve to raise the stakes a bit for the initiating team, and reward players who beef up their defense so that offense-heavy teams don't run away with the ball (pun very much intended and most awesome).

I like the idea of turning the tables on exp, but just so you are aware: the game mechanics do not change based on who started it the game..  Both sides play offense and defense.

Also, power and speed affect both offense and defense.  I think I'm going to change the game mechanics a bit, so I won't confuse you with algorithms yet.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.