Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[ice grillin you]

eight years ago and id agree with you...mccain isnt the free thinking independant minded republican he was back then...he rolled over quite a bit...and how do you know what hes gonna do when the deep right gets his claws in him...wheras the deep right depsises hillary

not to to mention theres a good chance mccain picks a true conservative as his veep to attract some of the far right who is scared by him...so now you have a conservative veep sitting behind a old most likely one term president and in the drivers seat to take over

[Rome]

If this country elects Hillary Clinton president then I don't particularly care what happens to it.  Voting Bush in twice was bad enough.  If we vote her in then this country can officially go farg itself because it really will get exactly what it deserves.

[Stallworth Supporter]

Well, Obama has two likely victories coming in the next week with Wyoming and Mississippi.  After that, it's 5 weeks of pounding the pavement in PA for the votes.

So, if you really are serious about getting Obama the nomination, then get your asses to www.barackobama.com and help out or donate or something.  I know that
dumb ass Rendell is going to be far too vocal about Hillary in the coming weeks and it's going to be sickening.

[PhillyGirl]

She just sickens me....she has ONE night where she doesn't get destroyed (and it seems both states were EXTREMELY close)....and this is what she starts blabbing:

Clinton hints at shared ticket

By JIM KUHNHENN and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer 2 minutes ago

Hillary Rodham Clinton, fresh off a campaign-saving comeback, hinted Wednesday at the possibility of sharing the Democratic presidential ticket with Barack Obama — with her at the top. Obama played down his losses, stressing that he still holds the lead in number of delegates.

On a night that failed to clarify the Democratic race, John McCain Tuesday clinched the Republican nomination. Clinton won primaries in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, halting Obama's winning streak. Obama won in Vermont.

Both Democrats insisted on Wednesday they had the best credentials to go head to head — or as Clinton put it "toe to toe" — against McCain.

Asked on CBS's "The Early Show" whether she and Obama should be on the same ticket, Clinton said:

"That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

Obama, who had hoped to knock Clinton out on Tuesday, said he would prevail despite facing a tenacious candidate who "just keeps on ticking." Clinton acknowledged the race was close and said it would come down to her credentials on national security and the economy.

The two presidential contenders made the rounds of the morning network television news shows Wednesday, declaring only one thing certain — that the campaign would go on and that the next big showdown would occur April 22 in Pennsylvania.

McCain, whose grasp on the nomination once seemed a distant reach, was headed for the White House Wednesday to have lunch with President Bush and get his endorsement. Bitter rivals in the 2000 presidential primaries, the two have forged an uneasy relationship during Bush's administration and have clashed on issues such as campaign finance, tax cuts, global warming and defining torture.

But the president planned a five-star ceremony, with a formal welcome at the White House's North Portico, lunch in Bush's private dining room and a formal endorsement in the Rose Garden.

Clinton's victories Tuesday night denied Obama a ripe opportunity to drive her from the Democratic presidential race. But Obama came away with a large share of delegates, too, in counting that continued Wednesday, meaning he's has a lead that's tough to overcome.

"We still have an insurmountable lead," Obama said. "We're very confident about where we're going to be and that we can win the nomination and the general election."

Clinton and Obama spent most of the past two weeks in Ohio and Texas in a bruising campaign, with the former first lady questioning his sincerity in opposing the North American Free Trade Agreement and darkly hinting he's not ready to be commander in chief in a crisis. Obama also confronted questions about one of his longtime political benefactors, businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who went on trial Monday in Chicago on several felony fraud charges.

Based on their current delegate counts, neither candidate can win enough delegates in the remaining primaries and caucuses to secure the nomination without the help of nearly 800 party officials and top elected officials who also have a voice in the selection. On Wednesday, Clinton and her campaign clearly aimed their case at those so-called "superdelegates" — a strategy that could take the nomination fight all the way to the party's August national convention in Denver.

"New questions are being raised, new challenges are being put to my opponent," she said. "Superdelegates are supposed to take all that information on board and they are supposed to be exercising the judgment that people would have exercised if this information and challenges had been available several months ago."

She said voters are being drawn to her argument that she would be the better commander in chief, the best steward of the economy and that she can better confront McCain in the general election.

Obama countered Wednesday that on a key national security issue — the war in Iraq — "she got it wrong" by supporting Bush's call for authority to use of force.

"I ultimately think the American people are going to want a clear break from the Bush-Cheney foreign policies of the past because they haven't made us more safe and more secure," he said. "If she thinks that longevity in Washington is the primary criteria for winning the White House, then John McCain is going to beat her."

As for superdelegates, Obama said he expected them to rally around him.

"I don't think it will necessarily go to the convention floor," he told reporters aboard his plane before taking off from San Antonio for Chicago.

He also said he will begin challenging Clinton on her foreign policy credentials.

"Was she negotiating treaties? Was she handling crises? The answer is no," he said. "She made a series of arguments on why she should be a superior candidate. I think it's important to examine that argument."

Clinton won about 54 percent of the Ohio vote in nearly complete returns. She was winning just over half in the Texas primary.

She still faced a daunting task trying to overtake Obama in the remaining contests. It was questionable whether she would make up much ground once the final results were in and the complexities of allotting the 370 delegates at stake in the four states were ironed out.

In the four-state competition for delegates, Clinton picked up at least 115, to at least 88 for Obama. Nearly 170 more remained to be allocated for the night, 154 of them in the Texas primary and the caucuses that immediately followed.

Obama had a lead in Texas caucuses before counting closed for the night Tuesday, to be resumed Wednesday.

Obama had a total of 1,477 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates, according to the Associated Press count. He picked up three superdelegate endorsements Tuesday.

Clinton had 1,391 delegates. It takes 2,025 to win the nomination.

Wyoming offers 12 delegates in caucuses Saturday; Mississippi has 33 at stake next week. The biggest remaining prize is Pennsylvania, with 158 delegates, April 22.

Hispanics, a group that has favored Clinton in earlier primaries, cast nearly one-third of the Election Day votes in Texas, up from about one-quarter of the ballots four years ago, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Blacks, who have voted heavily for Obama this year, accounted for roughly 20 percent of the votes cast, roughly the same as four years ago.

Both Democrats called McCain — a Senate colleague — to congratulate him on his triumph in the Republican race.

The 71-year-old Arizona senator surpassed the 1,191 delegates needed to win his party's nomination.

He sealed a nomination race against odds that seemed steep only a few months ago, and all but impossible last summer.

Facing a couple of well-financed marquee candidates in a crowded field, he opened his comeback in New Hampshire's leadoff primary, rolled over Rudy Giuliani in Florida and finished off Mitt Romney after Super Tuesday on Feb. 5.

Mike Huckabee hung in until Tuesday night, gamely keeping up the fight weeks after dropping from long shot to afterthought. He went out as he came in — never missing a chance for a wisecrack.

"It's time for us to hit the reset button," he said. "We started this effort with very little recognition and virtually no resources. We ended with slightly more recognition and very few resources."

On Tuesday night, McCain delivered a speech on the state of the union as he wants to make it: secure from Islamic extremism, victorious in Iraq, confident in trade, sound in its economy.

"Americans aren't interested in an election where they are just talked to and not listened to; an election that offers platitudes instead of principles and insults instead of ideas," he said.

"Their patience is at an end for politicians who value ambition over principle, and for partisanship that is less a contest of ideas than an uncivil brawl over the spoils of power."

[Phanatic]

One of McCain's potential VP candidates is Colin Powell... but he doesn't want it.

[Stallworth Supporter]

She won by less than 90,000 votes in Texas.  Not to mention, the caucus votes haven't been fully counted yet and last I saw, Obama was ahead by 10% there.  There are, i think, 83 delegates coming off of that.  He will definitely pick up more delegates than her and he may have the exact same delegate lead as he did coming in to yesterday.  There are 45 total delegates at stake in Wyoming (Saturday) and Mississippi (Tues) He will most likely win between 27 and 32 delegates.  Again, bolstering his lead.  Howard Dean and DNC need to step in and do something about it.

[NGM]

One of McCain's potential VP candidates is Colin Powell... but he doesn't want it.

That might be the only way I would vote for McCain.

[mussa]

One of McCain's potential VP candidates is Colin Powell... but he doesn't want it.

That might be the only way I would vote for McCain.

sad but true

[ice grillin you]

She just sickens me....she has ONE night where she doesn't get destroyed (and it seems both states were EXTREMELY close)....and this is what she starts blabbing:


Asked on CBS's "The Early Show" whether she and Obama should be on the same ticket, Clinton said:

"That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

i think the chances of having both of them on the ticket are about 2%....but i like this move on her part...especially compared to the idiotic comment she made yesterday about barry vs mccains experience...dems are worried about her stringing this out.....by dangling this carrot out there...shes saying theyll be on the same side....and there will be party unity....even with 3 more months of bloodying him up....

the problem right now is that hillary is a 1000 times better politician than barry....i know that is barrys appeal to most the fact that he isnt a politician but in american politics the better poltitician usually wins....hopefully thats not the case this time

[Phanatic]

Hillary's a more typical politician and has the strategy down pat. I wouldn't say she's better overall because she does not have Bill's speaking ability and Obama does. It's a mixed bag but there's a reason Obama's winning this election in delegates.

Hillary's only chance is to grab those super delegates and claim momentum.

[Father Demon]

Her forced I'm-so-happy face she shows everywhere makes me want to bash her with a tree limb.  Or rjs' buddy's fake arm.



Remember when that bitch never smiled?  Now we know why....

[PhillyGirl]

Class A freak

[Father Demon]

It's become her "go-to" face

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

still not looking good for Clinton if you do the math

Obama began Tuesday with an 11-race winning streak and a lead in the delegate chase in The Associated Press count — 1,386-1,276. His margin was larger — 1,187-1,035 — among pledged delegates chosen in primaries and caucuses.

Clinton has little chance of closing the gap because Democrats allocate most of their delegates proportionally, meaning the loser of a close contest earns nearly as many delegates as the winner. Even as she declared victory in Ohio, Clinton knew that Tuesday's results were unlikely to draw her much closer to Obama.

It doesn't get any better for Clinton after Tuesday. Just for kicks, pencil the New York senator in for landslide victories in Wyoming, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky plus narrow victories in Guam, Indiana, North Carolina, Montana and South Dakota — scenarios that give her a hefty benefit of the doubt and then some. And what happens?

She still trails Obama.

Her only hope is that a solid majority of the nearly 800 superdelegates support her over Obama. Party rules allow them to act independently, but it's almost unfathomable that these political animals would not ratify the results from primaries and caucuses.

[ice grillin you]

Her only hope is that a solid majority of the nearly 800 superdelegates support her over Obama. Party rules allow them to act independently, but it's almost unfathomable that these political animals would not ratify the results from primaries and caucuses.


as i mentioned earlier today in the thread this is all that matters

further mention of barry having an insurmountable lead in regular delegates could result in punishment