The Eagles Offseason Thread(all aboard the Brian Finneran bandwagon)

[PhillyPhanInDC]

I'm probably one of the few people that thinks Boldin is better. Fitz is more athletic obviously but that hasn't stopped Boldin from putting up nearly identical/sometimes better numbers then him.

Other than you, Anquan Boldin and his family are the only other people who think that. And they may even know that Fitz is better. So it might just be you. Blah blah blah Munson's a retard.

[Sgt PSN]

Just another highlight to how pathetic the Cardinals are:

Since 2003 (Boldin's rookie year):

Number of times a WR caught 70+ passes:  Cardinals - 6, Eagles - 2

Number of times a WR caught 100+ passes:  Cardinals- 4, Eagles - 0

Number of times a WR had 800+ recieving yards:  Cardinals - 6, Eagles - 3*

Number of times a WR had 1000+ recieving yards:  Cardinals - 5, Eagles - 2*

Number of times a WR had 5+ TD receptions:  Cardinals - 7, Eagles - 5

Number of playoff appearances:  Cardinals - 0, Eagles - 3

*TO had 763 yards in 2005 at the time of his suspention.  He easily would have gotten to 800 and likely 1000 yards again but was not included in the total count.  

I'm not saying I agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's stuff like this that keeps Reid away from big time recievers.  

And how farging pathetic are the Cardinals to have one of the best recieving tandems in the league (possibly ever) and play in such a weak division and not even be able to muster a single playoff appearance.  It's no secret they suck but this really illustrates it.  

[pinoyboy2pt0]

yeah but, most importantly, how many times did they spread the ball out to 12 no name WRs?  When you attack with no names, you keep the defense guessing.  4.  Time. NFC East. Champions!

It's kinda surprising they got that much out of it.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

I think Jake Scott, the guard from Indy might be a dark horse for the Birds.

[QB Eagles]

Pretty fun, Sarge. I tried another one.

Since 2002 (Chad Johnson's first big season):

Number of times a WR caught 70+ passes:  Bengals - 10, Eagles - 2

Number of times a WR caught 100+ passes:  Bengals- 1, Eagles - 0

Number of times a WR had 800+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 11, Eagles - 3*

Number of times a WR had 1000+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 8, Eagles - 2*

Number of times a WR had 5+ TD receptions:  Bengals - 12, Eagles - 7

Number of playoff appearances:  Bengals - 1, Eagles - 4

[Munson]

I'm probably one of the few people that thinks Boldin is better. Fitz is more athletic obviously but that hasn't stopped Boldin from putting up nearly identical/sometimes better numbers then him.

Other than you, Anquan Boldin and his family are the only other people who think that. And they may even know that Fitz is better. So it might just be you.

Like I said, prove it. They've put up virtually identical numbers since they started playing together. Fitzgerald has the edge in the TD department, but everyone knows he's the red zone target there (and would be anywhere else). I don't think you can say one way or the other, I've just always liked Boldin more.

[Sgt PSN]

Pretty fun, Sarge. I tried another one.

Since 2002 (Chad Johnson's first big season):

Number of times a WR caught 70+ passes:  Bengals - 10, Eagles - 2

Number of times a WR caught 100+ passes:  Bengals- 1, Eagles - 0

Number of times a WR had 800+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 11, Eagles - 3*

Number of times a WR had 1000+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 8, Eagles - 2*

Number of times a WR had 5+ TD receptions:  Bengals - 12, Eagles - 7

Number of playoff appearances:  Bengals - 1, Eagles - 4

Luckily we can always look to the Rams and Colts SB winning teams to counter those stats.  Hell, I just looked at Pittsburgh's reciever stats since 2003 and Hines Ward meets or exceeds the Eagles recievers in those same categories alone.  

[Munson]

Pretty fun, Sarge. I tried another one.

Since 2002 (Chad Johnson's first big season):

Number of times a WR caught 70+ passes:  Bengals - 10, Eagles - 2

Number of times a WR caught 100+ passes:  Bengals- 1, Eagles - 0

Number of times a WR had 800+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 11, Eagles - 3*

Number of times a WR had 1000+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 8, Eagles - 2*

Number of times a WR had 5+ TD receptions:  Bengals - 12, Eagles - 7

Number of playoff appearances:  Bengals - 1, Eagles - 4

Luckily we can always look to the Rams and Colts SB winning teams to counter those stats.  Hell, I just looked at Pittsburgh's reciever stats since 2003 and Hines Ward meets or exceeds the Eagles recievers in those same categories alone. 

Pitt and Indy's Defenses were also playing rather well in their runs. We know the Rams were all offense but if I remember correctly their D wasn't too shabby in 99 either.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm probably one of the few people that thinks Boldin is better. Fitz is more athletic obviously but that hasn't stopped Boldin from putting up nearly identical/sometimes better numbers then him.

Other than you, Anquan Boldin and his family are the only other people who think that. And they may even know that Fitz is better. So it might just be you.

Like I said, prove it. They've put up virtually identical numbers since they started playing together. Fitzgerald has the edge in the TD department, but everyone knows he's the red zone target there (and would be anywhere else). I don't think you can say one way or the other, I've just always liked Boldin more.

My eyes know what they see, bro.

[Rome]

Is there a more loathsome internet comment than "prove it"?

Jesus, Munson... talk about douchebaggery.

[Munson]

Damn romey calm down. I'm just saying they're pretty identical players. Boldin catches everything thrown at him, so does Fitz, I just always liked Boldins style of play more.

[mpmcgraw]

lol @ the guy going against conventional wisdom saying prove it.

[Sgt PSN]

Pretty fun, Sarge. I tried another one.

Since 2002 (Chad Johnson's first big season):

Number of times a WR caught 70+ passes:  Bengals - 10, Eagles - 2

Number of times a WR caught 100+ passes:  Bengals- 1, Eagles - 0

Number of times a WR had 800+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 11, Eagles - 3*

Number of times a WR had 1000+ recieving yards:  Bengals - 8, Eagles - 2*

Number of times a WR had 5+ TD receptions:  Bengals - 12, Eagles - 7

Number of playoff appearances:  Bengals - 1, Eagles - 4

Luckily we can always look to the Rams and Colts SB winning teams to counter those stats.  Hell, I just looked at Pittsburgh's reciever stats since 2003 and Hines Ward meets or exceeds the Eagles recievers in those same categories alone. 

Pitt and Indy's Defenses were also playing rather well in their runs. We know the Rams were all offense but if I remember correctly their D wasn't too shabby in 99 either.

Correct.  The Rams d in 99 was pretty damn good.  Their d in 2001 was more the higher end of middle of the pack I think.  Maybe somewhere around 12-15.  

Pitt has a good defense every year pretty much.  Indy had problems in previous years with their defense and they were hurting in 2005 as well.  It wasn't until Bob Sanders came back late in the year that the defense really started playing well enough to not be a liability in the post season.  

[Sgt PSN]

Since 2004 (Fitz's rookie year):

70+ catches:  Fitz - 2, Boldin - 3
100+ catches:  Fitz - 2, Boldin - 1
800 yds rec:  Fitz - 3, Boldin - 3
1000 yds rec:  Fitz - 2, Boldin - 2
5+ rec td's:  Fitz - 3, Boldin - 2

They're pretty damn even as far as I'm concerned.  I think might be a little more versatile and have a better all around game but the differences between the 2 are miniscule at best. 

Thier stats are so rediculously close that I went and compared fumbles and fumbles lost and they're dead even with each other. 

[ice grillin you]

lol @ munson saying they are equal except for touchdowns

anyway they are close when both are healthy the problem is boldin often isnt...and he has trouble playing thru a hang nail...fitzgerald is definitely the better guy to have but roy williams would be better than both


as for defenses the eagles had a plenty good enough defense to win the sb for every year of their run...definitely better than indys probably not quite as good as pitts...but to point to other teams defenses as being the reason they won just proves even more that the eagles needed a #1 wr to put them over the top because they had everything but that