Franchised/Released/Signed/Traded--2008

Started by reese125, February 20, 2008, 09:16:42 AM

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Quote from: NGM on February 20, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
So a non-exclusive tag essentially makes the player a restricted free agent?

Kind of. A big difference is that if a team doesn't match a new team's offer, the original team gets two first-rounders as compensation for losing their franchise player.

Also, the contract value is based on last year's salaries instead of this year's.

By the way, Dansby isn't the only non-exclusive tag. I believe all of the franchised players other than Andrews and Haynesworth are non-exclusive. That includes LJ.

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Quote from: BigEd76 on February 20, 2008, 06:34:42 PM
Trufant and Corey Williams were tagged

I wonder if this means that Josh Brown, who considers being franchised "an honor", will be on the move.

reese125

Im surprised they didnt come to long terms with him already since he was slapped with the tag last year. He had career highs in FG's and attempts

BigEd76

Max Starks gets the transition tag

Bubba Franks was released

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Quote from: QB Eagles on February 20, 2008, 06:38:43 PM
Quote from: NGM on February 20, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
So a non-exclusive tag essentially makes the player a restricted free agent?

Kind of. A big difference is that if a team doesn't match a new team's offer, the original team gets two first-rounders as compensation for losing their franchise player.

The draft picks are negotiable.  If a team wanted to go after LJ Smith, who obviously isn't worth 2 first round picks, could offer LJ a reasonable salary (that the Eagles could/would match) and say a 1st and a 3rd round pick to make the Eagles happy so that they don't match the offer.  So while the team would be getting LJ at a fair salary, they'd still be "over paying" with their draft picks. 

The only way the 2 first round picks are mandatory is if the team with the tagged player refuses to take anything less. 

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By the way, Dansby isn't the only non-exclusive tag. I believe all of the franchised players other than Andrews and Haynesworth are non-exclusive. That includes LJ.

Off the top of my head, I can't recall many/any instances over the years were the exclusive tag was used.  I could really see a player getting pissed off about this one since the player doesn't even have the ability to attempt to find a team willing to pay the hefty price for him. 

Cerevant

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2008, 07:59:28 AM
The only way the 2 first round picks are mandatory is if the team with the tagged player refuses to take anything less. 

Only practically true, not technically - if the team accepts less, it is a trade - not free agency.

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Off the top of my head, I can't recall many/any instances over the years were the exclusive tag was used.  I could really see a player getting pissed off about this one since the player doesn't even have the ability to attempt to find a team willing to pay the hefty price for him. 

And it doesn't make sense for the team, because they get to pay the player less and there are basically no players who are worth 2 first round picks.
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The Cowboys put the Franchise tag on Hamlin

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Quote from: Cerevant on February 21, 2008, 08:17:08 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2008, 07:59:28 AM
The only way the 2 first round picks are mandatory is if the team with the tagged player refuses to take anything less. 

Only practically true, not technically - if the team accepts less, it is a trade - not free agency.


Well, duh.  A tagged player doesn't reach free agency.  That's the whole point of even having the tag in the first place.......to give teams a chance to retain their best players.  

And when you slap the tag on a player, you're basically inviting the rest of the league to a sign and trade.  

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Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2008, 05:24:35 PM
The Cowboys put the Franchise tag on Hamlin

That sucks. I was kind of hoping the Birds could of stuck it in the Cowboys ass and signed him.
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DeShaun Foster released by Carolina

Jamal Lewis re-signed with Cleveland

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Quote from: PPinDC on February 21, 2008, 05:45:44 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2008, 05:24:35 PM
The Cowboys put the Franchise tag on Hamlin

That sucks. I was kind of hoping the Birds could of stuck it in the Cowboys ass and signed him.

He was out there to be had by anyone who wanted him last season and the Eagles passed. I think they're interested in Gibril Wilson.