Sal Pal: Eagles To Pursue Samuel?

Started by PhillyPhreak54, February 09, 2008, 12:48:24 PM

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hbionic

Quote from: Father Demon on February 11, 2008, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.  Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong.  If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.

If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do.  Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.

Why didn't you just say "What Troy said ^^" and save the finger fatigue?

Or he could have used the timely, 'This'.
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


Displaced

I would love to see Samuel on the Eagles but the problem with the scenario described above is that Dawk is not at this point in his career going to play SS.  He has stated he is uncomfortable making the calls and I just can't see taking him out of his area of expertise if you will in order to accomodate Samuel and a move to safety by Sheldon.

I was a bit disappointed by NE's secondary against the Giants in that superbowl.  I don't know how enthused I would be at this point if the Eagles were to actually pursue him.  It is obvious though that the Eagles must get an answer for Buress whether it comes in the form of scheme of personel an answer has to be found.  He is their new Tiki.

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Father Demon on February 11, 2008, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.  Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong.  If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.

If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do.  Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.

Why didn't you just say "What Troy said ^^" and save the finger fatigue?

I'm just taking a stab in the dark here...... but maybe because Troy didn't say it. 

Zanshin

Quote from: Displaced on February 11, 2008, 06:39:19 AM
I would love to see Samuel on the Eagles but the problem with the scenario described above is that Dawk is not at this point in his career going to play SS.  He has stated he is uncomfortable making the calls and I just can't see taking him out of his area of expertise if you will in order to accomodate Samuel and a move to safety by Sheldon.

It really wouldn't be that big of a deal.  He plays strong in a number of packages as it is.

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hbionic

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 11, 2008, 09:11:11 AM
i played with my package this morning

Ok ladies and gentelman, its' been great. Time to lock the entire board down for good.
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

If we all start listening to hip hop and talking all gangsta-like, will you leave too? 

ice grillin you

only if its not funny...humor and fresh schticks is what life is all about
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Sgt PSN

That's what I'm talking about homie.  Gotsta keep it real, yo. 

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

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PhillyPhreak54

QuoteCornering the market? Eagles may go after Samuel

By Bob Brookover

Inquirer Staff Writer
INDIANAPOLIS - The Eagles weren't taking requests, but Donovan McNabb blogged one anyway.

Shortly after the team completed its 8-8 season that was good for last place in the ultra-competitive NFC East, the Eagles' franchise quarterback used his personal blog to plead for more "playmakers in all three phases of the game."

Running back Brian Westbrook, offensive tackle Jon Runyan, and veteran safety Brian Dawkins have since supported the idea.

The Eagles will get their first real chance to satisfy those wishes when the free-agent bidding begins Friday at 12:01 a.m. Coach Andy Reid and the rest of the Eagles' decision-makers also are strongly in favor of upgrading the talent level through free agency.

The problem is that it's much easier said than done.

"There are certain positions where you only have one good guy that hasn't been tagged," Eagles president Joe Banner said, referring to the franchise tag that teams use to make it nearly impossible to sign one of their players.

"I think you're going to see a very aggressive rush those first few days. I think the first day or two are going to be crazy," Banner said as the team continued to map out its free-agent plan here at the NFL Scouting Combine.

That first day or two also will be cutthroat, because the days when only a handful of teams could afford to pursue the most prized free agents are in the past. With the salary cap expanding to $116 million this season, just about every team in the league can afford to get into a bidding war.

The most valuable free agent that has been linked to the Eagles in recent weeks is Asante Samuel, but it's not a slam dunk that the team will make a serious bid for the New England Patriots' Pro Bowl cornerback.

According to a league source, the Eagles' sights had been set on Seattle cornerback Marcus Trufant before the Seahawks placed the franchise tag on him Thursday.
Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha also was tagged, leaving Samuel as the only truly elite cornerback on the open market.

If the Eagles decide to seriously bid for Samuel's services, they will have to pay a heavy price because he is expected to sign for more money than any other defensive player in NFL history.

Is Samuel worth that much or do the Eagles believe they can succeed with veterans Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown returning? It's a complicated question.

Sheppard has missed 14 games the last three seasons because of injuries, and there's some thought he might be less than thrilled with his contract, which has four years remaining.

A league source indicated that Brown also feels underappreciated after defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said last season that he had to compete with Will James to keep his starting job.

Another issue is that the Eagles' cornerback tandem combined for just five interceptions last season. Twenty-two players had that many by themselves.

Given Brian Dawkins' advanced age and injury problems last season, the Eagles may have been in the market for help at safety, but the free-agent market is even thinner at that position than it is at cornerback. Dallas' Ken Hamlin was the best available safety, but the Cowboys used their franchise tag on him late last week. The best available player at the position now is the New York Giants' Gibril Wilson, who had a career-high four interceptions last season.

Reid made the point that quarterback pressure from the defensive line and linebackers helps any secondary, so it's possible the Eagles could turn their attention in that direction.

Again, the problem is that the premier pass rushers - Kansas City's Jared Allen and Baltimore's Terrell Suggs - never made it to the open market. The best of the rest is Cincinnati's Justin Smith, and it wouldn't be shocking if the Eagles made a run at him. Smith had only two sacks last season but averaged almost seven per season in his first six years.

Jacksonville's Bobby McCray is another possibility at defensive end. His sack total dropped from 10 in 2006 to three in 2007, but he's only 26. Tennessee's Antwan Odom and Travis LaBoy also are interesting names. Odom had a career-high eight sacks last season, and LaBoy had a career-high six sacks and four forced fumbles.

The Eagles have a history of acquiring defensive ends from the Titans, with Juqua Thomas and the soon-to-be-released Jevon Kearse having joined the team from Tennessee.

When McNabb made his plea for help last month, it's safe to assume he was hoping the Eagles would add playmakers to the wide-receiver corps. That, of course, is an annual staple on the wish list of Eagles fans.

It's not out of the question that the Eagles will pursue a wide receiver in free agency, but it doesn't seem likely that they will go after one of the elite ones. New England's Randy Moss tops the list of free agents, but few people believe he will sign with any team other than the Patriots.

That doesn't mean there aren't interesting options at receiver. The Patriots have made it known they will not pick up the option of former Eagle Donté Stallworth, which means he will be on the free-agent market for the second consecutive season. It seems unlikely, however, that he would return to Philadelphia for a couple of reasons.

Stallworth said during the Super Bowl that he loved playing in Philadelphian, but he felt as if the Eagles had their opportunity to sign him to a long-term deal last off-season. The Eagles also feel better about the combination of Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown than their fan base does.


The one free agent who could fit perfectly with the Eagles is Houston's Andre' Davis, who is both a speed receiver and a quality kick returner. In addition to catching 33 passes for 583 yards and three touchdowns last season, Davis returned three kickoffs for touchdowns and averaged 30.3 yards per return. The Eagles obviously need to improve in the return game.

It's unlikely that the Eagles will try to add a running back, tight end (the team tagged L.J. Smith) or offensive lineman. Pittsburgh guard Alan Faneca is considered the best offensive lineman, but he is 31, and the Eagles already have two starting tackles older than 30.

By this time next week, we'll know the Eagles' free-agent plan and we might even know whether it was a successful one.

"My own opinion is, there's going to be a very, very short market this year," Banner said. "It's not to say there aren't any opportunities out there, but I think you're going to see the market accelerated . . . The second tier of free agency, where maybe that kicked in two weeks into free agency in the past, maybe you're going to see it kicking in three to five days into free agency."

Let the spending begin.

PhillyPhreak54

A few thoughts;

1. Nice title of the article only to see Brookover say it's not a slam dunk they would go after him. Mis-lead much. Inky?

2. Samuel will be expensive for sure. His deal will likely exceed the one signed by Nate Clements in SF because that's the market setter there and Samuel is better than Clements. But we do know the Eagles will spend big if they want to and make history doing it (Kearse in 04).

3. It's a shame Trufant was tagged. I thought that was they guy they would target and it says thats who they wanted.

4. Awwwww, poor Sheldon. Are your feelings hurt because Jim Johnson said you had to compete for your job? Hush up and play ball, dude. I hate how emotional some of these guys are. Don't like whats said? Play better and shut the people up yourself.

5. I want Stallworth back.

6. Andre Davis would be a great addition.

shorebird

Andre Davis would automatically make our return game 100% better.